Plot to Kidnap Michigan Governor

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  • lurker
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 3343

    #31
    I might regret posting the below.

    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
    I don't denounce CHAZ and they aren't comparable.
    I said:

    Can you please post the link or links where you denounced, The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), also known as Free Capitol Hill, the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest, or the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP).(not a nice word)
    You mentioned only CHAZ, not the others. So the way I read that is if you don’t denounce one you don’t denounces the others. Correct?

    First off. Your lack of equivalent fairness on matters like this stinks to high heavens, and are baselessly absurd in my opinion. You choose to see it your way, and your way only. Selfishly and obstinate, and that is worse than sad, especially in today’s climate of Politics. Where your side, the Left, tells everyone they are the ones that are more tolerant. I call BS and I call it loudly. You, for one, are not tolerant at all when it comes to equivalent fairness in forum discussions. If you want everyone to get along and be tolerant, it starts with one’s self.

    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
    So you support a plot to kidnap the Michigan governor?
    I never said or implied that. No one else here has either. Please do not put insinuations in my mouth.

    As you replied to BBQboy;

    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
    I'm sure you would be more outspoken if it weren't a group on your side.
    This is nothing new and sides don’t matter to them: Knowing anti government militia groups that are straight-up direct, anti government militia groups, not fringe small groups like the one exposed on Thursday --- have been around, and very-very popular in certain parts of the country --- and I have followed (subjected to) their craziness since about age 12 making that the mid 70’s --- I certainly know what anti government militia groups are all about. Read the books, watched the VHS tapes, then later on watched the videos online. Been there and done that. None of it I agree with, but I was exposed to it at a young age.

    I have found out factually and firsthand over the years that anti Government militia groups are neither Republican nor Democrat, just simply anti Government, and the popularity of said groups has not wavered under ANY administration or Presidency since I‘ve followed since the mid 70’s. Be it, Carter, Regan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, or Obama --- anti Government militia groups have been around and being a Republican or Democrat is not a precursor or condition for being involved. Some don’t identify with any Political party at all.

    Now then -

    As for the rejection of the premise of your question; super far-far-far-far Rightwing militia groups anti-government activisms groups and the denouncement of it, should go without being said and should be obvious or self evident to you with my (and others) lack of saying anything at all --- as I do not support “them”. Past postings from me and others postings on matters exactly like this support that statement. Right or wrong, accept that or not, it is what it is. Not sure why I needed to spell it out, but there you go nonetheless. Seriously, I don’t see your “want to” debate in this matter, nor do a prefer to debate this with you. You appear on the other hand “want to” debate this and support the likes of Antifa as you have proven, written, and described in your posting #22. That’s all that is needed to know.

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    • Buford.Justice
      Senior Member
      • May 2020
      • 4981

      #32
      Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
      So the FBI arrested six members of a right wing militia who were plotting to kidnap the Michigan governor. That sounds more violent than anything any antifa group has done so far.
      No No No!!!! Those are not right wingers. You are telling a total lie with that statement. They are far leftists that are agaisnt ALL in government!

      And they have not actually done any violence silly. A plot for violence is not literal violence. Your assault against Conservatism, freedom and the pursuit of happiness rages on!!!

      As you try to slander the right wing with lies once again.
      Last edited by Buford.Justice; 10-09-2020, 09:53 PM.
      If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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      • Buford.Justice
        Senior Member
        • May 2020
        • 4981

        #33
        Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
        I don't denounce CHAZ and they aren't comparable.
        You don't denounce CHAZ?????? So you approve of anarhists and violet protests.... Okay, I see...
        If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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        • Buford.Justice
          Senior Member
          • May 2020
          • 4981

          #34
          Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
          So you support a plot to kidnap the Michigan governor?
          No, but a recall should be taken up to remove this power hungry knit wit --mer!!!
          If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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          • lurker
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 3343

            #35
            Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
            You don't denounce CHAZ?????? So you approve of anarchists and violet protests.... Okay, I see...
            Buford -

            That’s the way it reads to me also.

            IMHO, the upheaval we are seeing from the Left, is just the tip of the iceberg ---- come after Tuesday November 3rd 2020. It’s a no win lose-lose either way. If Trump wins, it will be more of the same ol’ same ol’ from the Left. Just more of the $hitstorm we’ve seen for three plus years. The Left will cry foul, more Antifa, more domestic terrorism, then more riots, looting, anarchy and violence. Now then if the Harris Administration wins, the $hitstorm will be bigger for a myriad of reasons --- and then when they try to take away (confiscate) legal guns from legal gun owners --- its all on. Buckle up baby because everything you’ve seen up till now will be Childs play thereafter. Take that one to the bank.

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            • lurker
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 3343

              #36
              Buford -

              Buyback (confiscate) of legal guns from legal gun owners --- is Hitlerism at its core.

              Colion Noir - Proof Joe Biden & Kamala Harris back Gun Confiscations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmiuD3mafeA

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              • lurker
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2017
                • 3343

                #37
                From CNN -

                New details emerge about plot to kidnap Michigan governor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXvH0leEaEs

                “he was in a militia and got kicked out.”
                “Trump is not your friend’
                “Keep up the good work chief”

                Like I said, it was a fringe anti Government group.

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                • lurker
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 3343

                  #38
                  From Channel 4 Detroit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFqHSNZO-V8


                  “He doesn’t belong in one party or the other” - attorney speaking about Daniel Harris.

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                  • lurker
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 3343

                    #39
                    The Face of American Insurgency

                    The Michigan plot wasn’t about Donald Trump. It goes deeper than that.

                    Some of these groups—including this one, which, had it succeeded, would have been the season’s most brazenly violent—seem to be inspired not by white supremacist ideology or left/right partisanship, but rather by an off-the-cliff radical variant of a feeling deeply rooted in American culture: fear and hatred of government.
                    Trump’s rhetorical assault on lockdowns and mask-wearing may have inflamed many radicals—the storming of the state Capitol came soon after Trump’s tweet, calling on his followers to “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”—but there is no indication that the Wolverine Watchmen are pro-Trump. One of them tweeted a video some time ago (the date isn’t clear) in which he says, “Trump is not your friend, dude. … He’s a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy, dude.”

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #40
                      All of these people are wrong lurker......it's all trumps fault.

                      Every single bit of it,Mcnugget says so.
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • STRONGERTHANDIRT
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 753

                        #41
                        Thank goodness we have a fair and impartial media to set things straight!!!

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                        • lurker
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 3343

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                          All of these people are wrong lurker......it's all trumps fault.

                          Every single bit of it,Mcnugget says so.
                          Hmmmmmmmmm?

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                          • lurker
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 3343

                            #43
                            Hmmmmmmmmm? What do we have here?

                            False narratives, and from mcarter815’s favorite news source NPR too. Then believing the mainstream media pushing the false narrative , then jumping to conclusions early on without all of the information.

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                            • mcarter815
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 1690

                              #44
                              From the Slate article that lurker posted.

                              "Their particular agitation toward Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, seems to have been sparked by her lockdown orders in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic. At least two of the Wolverine Watchmen were among the armed protesters who stormed and briefly occupied the Michigan State Capitol in Lansing this past May."

                              Which is exactly what Trump was talking about in his "liberate Michigan" tweet.

                              A group can be right wing and also not be pro-Trump. Anarcho-capitalists would get a right wing anti-government group. Anarchists can be right or left depending on the flavor of anarchy.

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                              • ZERO25
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2018
                                • 5240

                                #45
                                Thats like saying, you can get the polynesian sauce from Mickey D's, for your fake McNuggets!

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