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  • 50j
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 1047

    #46
    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
    It's a difference in degrees. We don't live in a direct democracy, true, but our representatives are democratically elected. A constitutional republic is a form of democracy.
    Agreed. It seems that liberals oftentimes feel like they can trample on the Constitution though, and that it's all about mob rule.

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    • mcarter815
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 1690

      #47
      The Founding Fathers weren't paragons of virtue. They were slave owners. They thought the only people that could be trusted with voting were white men who owned land. The United States is a lot more democratic today than it was when it was founded, and that's a good thing. It's not as democratic as it should be and it's not the most democratic country in the world.

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      • 50j
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 1047

        #48
        Patriots feel like it's the best country in the world, and there are plenty of countries for those that prefer socialism. Those in socialist countries want to be here. Regarding voting procedure, people who contribute nothing and who have nothing to lose should not dictate policy. That's just common sense. Families that have worked hard and saved for generations should not be expected to carry those that won't work or who squander what they earn. You reap what you sow.

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        • 50j
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 1047

          #49
          The Founding Fathers were actually geniuses.

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          • mcarter815
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 1690

            #50
            Originally posted by 50j View Post
            Patriots feel like it's the best country in the world, and there are plenty of countries for those that prefer socialism. Those in socialist countries want to be here. Regarding voting procedure, people who contribute nothing and who have nothing to lose should not dictate policy. That's just common sense. Families that have worked hard and saved for generations should not be expected to carry those that won't work or who squander what they earn. You reap what you sow.
            How many Scandinavians and Germans have been flocking to the United States in the past couple decades?

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            • mcarter815
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 1690

              #51
              Originally posted by 50j View Post
              The Founding Fathers were actually geniuses.
              The Founding Fathers were flawed individuals, just like the rest of us. What was progressive 200+ years ago isn't progressive today.

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              • 50j
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 1047

                #52
                When they were "progressives" they were interested in building up and improving things and rewarding hard work. The "progressives" of today seem to believe in destroying things and rewarding sloth.

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                • mcarter815
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1690

                  #53
                  Nah, that's a myth. The Founding Fathers were just concerned about protecting aristocratic society. Progressives today are working to make sure that every citizen has a voice. The constitution as written was to give power to a minority of the population.

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                  • 50j
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1047

                    #54
                    Not at all, it applies to everyone. Everyone currently has the opportunity to work and benefit from it.. When that incentive is taken away it's unsustainable and you will only have a ruling class and serfs.

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                    • 50j
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1047

                      #55
                      The first two amendments are crucial where freedom is concerned and "progressives" are attacking both.

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                      • TS FAN
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4236

                        #56
                        Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                        Nah, that's a myth. The Founding Fathers were just concerned about protecting aristocratic society. Progressives today are working to make sure that every citizen has a voice. The constitution as written was to give power to a minority of the population.
                        You got to be kidding. Get your head out of your butt. BTW the minorities that the constitution protects is the fly over states.

                        Minorites suffer when Dems are in charge. Dems are owned by wall street, silicon valley, China and the media. The rich get richer and more people go on food stamps. Just the way Dems want it. Keep them down, blame conservatives with the help of the lying media and promise them good times. Cycle is now in session. Don't believe me, watch what happens the next four years. Every thing that happens will be Trumps fault. Ignorant poor fools will believe it.

                        One thing is certain, this admin. will be a disaster. Can't miss. Don't believe me? Just watch.

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                        • mcarter815
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1690

                          #57
                          Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
                          You got to be kidding. Get your head out of your butt. BTW the minorities that the constitution protects is the fly over states.

                          Minorites suffer when Dems are in charge. Dems are owned by wall street, silicon valley, China and the media. The rich get richer and more people go on food stamps. Just the way Dems want it. Keep them down, blame conservatives with the help of the lying media and promise them good times. Cycle is now in session. Don't believe me, watch what happens the next four years. Every thing that happens will be Trumps fault. Ignorant poor fools will believe it.

                          One thing is certain, this admin. will be a disaster. Can't miss. Don't believe me? Just watch.
                          Flyover states weren't a thing when the Constitution was written. The Constitution was written to protect the lower population slave states in the south because there was a fear they wouldn't join the Union if they weren't protected from the higher population anti-slavery states.

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                          • ZERO25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 5240

                            #58
                            Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                            Flyover states weren't a thing when the Constitution was written. The Constitution was written to protect the lower population slave states in the south because there was a fear they wouldn't join the Union if they weren't protected from the higher population anti-slavery states.
                            Im so glad you were there and knew the motivations for the original writers!

                            You libtards are a piece of work!

                            They musta been real uneducated to allow for a process to not follow state electors!! Did they consult with you on that too?
                            Last edited by ZERO25; 12-15-2020, 06:03 PM.

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                            • mcarter815
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 1690

                              #59
                              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                              Im so glad you were there and knew the motivations for the original writers!

                              You libtards are a piece of work!

                              They musta been real uneducated to allow for a process to not follow state electors!! Did they consult with you on that too?
                              We have historical documents from that time period, including their writings. It doesn't require any divination on our part.

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                              • ZERO25
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2018
                                • 5240

                                #60
                                Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                                We have historical documents from that time period, including their writings. It doesn't require any divination on our part.
                                Naawwww......just ASSumptions!

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