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  • Morgs153
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2020
    • 861

    #31
    CIRF,

    That's a great list. Great post. Not much to add to that but I might.

    Deregulation! That was a great jump start to an economy.

    Moving the embassy to Jerusalem and divesting from the stupid Palestinian issue.

    That Mideast peace deal you mention, the Abraham Accord, was something the last FIVE presidents couldn't get done.

    Gaining closer ties to India and Vietnam. Very important in this time of China's expansionism.

    Yes indeed, some very good things were done in spite of all the nonsense constantly hurled at the guy. Imagine what even a little cooperation might have brought.

    For those who say this guy was such a dictator, or other evil vernacular, name one - just one - thing his administration did to further something in a dictatorial fashion. I know, there were some things he would tweet or get blowhardy about but nothing ever came of it.
    Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.

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    • kazual
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 1168

      #32
      Well he chose to argue over the size of his inauguration crowd (petty) and at one time suggested we put disinfectant in our bloodstream (pass the Lysol). There is that little thing about Putin owning him like an ole Jersey cow but tsk, tsk, we don’t want to sweat small things. He did a good job on the vaccine development but poor, very poor, on managing it, leading the nation, and distribution. Like a 4 year old just deny it and it will go away. If he would have handled the pandemic like a real leader he would have been re-elected, simple as that. But instead he whimpers like a small child about being dealt a tough hand, grow up ya big baby. No I don’t care for him and as concerned as I am about Biden it scares me to think of Trump serving another four years. He attempted to overthrow our democracy, if that is something you can overlook then I don’t understand why you even live here.
      I hate time trials.

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      • Morgs153
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 861

        #33
        So yet another need for a reminder.

        Left-wing activists made multiple false and misleading claims on Thursday following President Donald Trump’s White House Coronavirus Task Force press briefing in which the president commented on new scientific findings from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).The activists falsely claimed that Trump “urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant” and “told people to drink bleach.”To understand Trump’s remarks, it’s important to first understand the full context of what was said at the press briefing.Bill Bryan, Under Secretary for Science and Technology at DHS, said at the press briefing, “Our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air. We’ve seen a similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well, where increasing the temperature and humidity or both is generally less favorable to the virus.”Bryan talked about the half-life of the coronavirus on surfaces like door handles and stainless steel surfaces, saying that when they “inject” UV rays into the mix along with high temperatures and increased humidity that the virus dies quickly.“The virus does not survive as well in droplets of saliva, and that’s important because a lot of testing being done is not necessarily being done, number one, with the COVID-19 virus and number two, in saliva or respiratory fluids,” Bryan continued. “And thirdly, the virus dies the quickest in the presence of direct sunlight under these conditions.”https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1253446537373454343Bryan continued by noting that DHS also tested if certain types of disinfectant could kill the coronavirus.“We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster.”Bryan added, “We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.”Immediately following these remarks, Trump said:So, I’m going to ask Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing when we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.A few moments later, ABC News reporter Jon Karl asked Bryan, “The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?”“No, I’m here to talk about the finds that we had in the study,” Bryan responded. “We don’t do that within that lab at our labs.”Trump then clarified his remarks: “It wouldn’t be through injections, you’re talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big affect if it’s on a stationary object.”Trump later raised the possibility of whether UV rays could kill the coronavirus if it was on a person’s skin, in particular if it were on their hands.“If they’re outside, right, and their hands are exposed to the sun, will that kill it as though it were a piece of metal or something else?” Trump asked.“I don’t want to say it will at the same rate because it’s a non-porous surface, but what we do know is that we looked at the worst case scenario and the virus lives longer on non-porous surfaces,” Bryan responded. “So porous surfaces, it doesn’t live quite as long, so in theory what you said is correct.”Left-wing activist Chris D. Jackson wrote that Trump had “urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant.”Tonight the far left seems more upset about a report suggesting a former Treasury Secretary is advising @JoeBiden on economic policy than the fact that @realDonaldTrump urged Americans to inject themselves with disinfectant.This is our political reality in a nutshell.— Chris D. Jackson (@ChrisDJackson) April 24, 2020Jake Maccoby, a former speech writer for the Obama Justice Department, wrote on Twitter that Trump had “told people to drink bleach.”Trump downplayed the virus then called for rebellion then told people to drink bleach, maybe it's time to stop taking his press conferences live— Jake Maccoby (@jdmaccoby) April 23, 2020Others have repeated the false claims.The Daily Wire, headed by bestselling author and popular podcast host Ben Shapiro, is a leading provider of conservative news, cutting through the mainstream media’s rhetoric to provide readers the most important, relevant, and engaging stories of the day. Get inside access to The Daily Wire by becoming a subscriber. 


        Politifact also debunked the drinking of disinfectant story as well.

        The Mueller Report was a big expensive nothing burger. Russia, Russia, Russia collusion didn't happen. A Special Counsel investigation based on a campaign opposition creation bought and paid for by the Clinton team and fostered by the outgoing administration and ill gotten FISA warrants from corrupt and partisan FBI actors.

        I'll give you this, getting into the weeds on petty bickering was below the dignity of the office at times. I personally didn't care for it either. He would have been better served by some better advisors who could have said, they know you're the president, they don't need quite as many daily reminders about it. I don't think I would have told him to hide in a basement, put a lid on pressers and go to bed with the chickens but, sometimes less is more.
        Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.

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        • Barbecueboy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 18116

          #34
          Trey gowdy

          I had some serious hope there, and I understand that some personal housecleaning issues needed addressing is the reason he bailed so unceremoniously.

          Not sure of the details , just some chatter from a colleague that knows him personally.

          I'm hoping he gets it figured out and resurfaces somehow.....but there are others in the wings that will do fine, I like your example from Florida.
          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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          • Buford.Justice
            Senior Member
            • May 2020
            • 4981

            #35
            Kazz I actually thought you were smarter than believing that fake news crap, guess I was just plain wrong.
            If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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            • dirtMAN007
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 5691

              #36
              Spoon fed the libtard talking points I see !

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              • Buford.Justice
                Senior Member
                • May 2020
                • 4981

                #37
                Kazz come on really??? Trump was restoring the power to the people, You're just as duped as a couple of the other clueless [people on here, and I'm dissappointed...
                If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                • CIRF
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8122

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Morgs153 View Post
                  CIRF,

                  That's a great list. Great post. Not much to add to that but I might.

                  Deregulation! That was a great jump start to an economy.

                  Moving the embassy to Jerusalem and divesting from the stupid Palestinian issue.

                  That Mideast peace deal you mention, the Abraham Accord, was something the last FIVE presidents couldn't get done.

                  Gaining closer ties to India and Vietnam. Very important in this time of China's expansionism.

                  Yes indeed, some very good things were done in spite of all the nonsense constantly hurled at the guy. Imagine what even a little cooperation might have brought.

                  For those who say this guy was such a dictator, or other evil vernacular, name one - just one - thing his administration did to further something in a dictatorial fashion. I know, there were some things he would tweet or get blowhardy about but nothing ever came of it.
                  Deregulation is one I should never have forgot to include. Trumps deregulation was responsible for 3 years of his 4 year term being quite lucrative for me and some of my colleagues.

                  Thank you for making the list more complete. I was working on memory alone and as usual my memory was something less than thorough.

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                  • CIRF
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8122

                    #39
                    Rampant hurt feelings don't count towards a disastrous Presidency. Speculation and opinion on Putin's influence doesn't either.

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                    • dirtMAN007
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 5691

                      #40
                      Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                      Rampant hurt feelings don't count towards a disastrous Presidency. Speculation and opinion on Putin's influence doesn't either.
                      Must be working mandatory overtime !

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                      • ss12
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3864

                        #41
                        Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                        ss, I have a legitimate question for you. Specify as best you can exactly what was disastrous about DJT's administration?

                        I'll list the facts of the positives.

                        He opened meaningful relations with North Korea.

                        He defeated isis and rendered them impotent (much like our resident man-bun gamer boy! LOLOL!!).

                        He helped make the U.S. energy independent.

                        He produced the lowest minority unemployment rate in the history of that particular statistic and he oversaw the lowest overall unemployment rate since WW II.

                        His economic policies substantially raised medium income's for everyone but most of all for minorities.

                        During DJT's term minorities had the lowest poverty rate since who knows when. Maybe ever.

                        He slowed the influx of immigrants entering our country illegally.

                        He started no wars and brought as many of our service men & women home as was possible.

                        He brokered agreements between Israel and some of the Arab/Muslim nations that were historic.

                        He did away with having criminal rap artists and race bating clowns as guests in the White House.

                        He also hurt your feelings, and I feel bad about that. Hussein, the arrogantly over educated racist University of chitcago Law School professor and his he/she wife made me a bit nauseous and caused me to throw up just a little in my mouth but his anemic policies and presidency never hurt my feelings. LOL!!

                        Everyone who takes the time to read my drivel knows I don't personally like DJT and wouldn't really want to be in the same room with him, BUT, he accomplished a whole lotta' good things in just 4 years while being constantly bombarded with one hoax after another.

                        Now it's your turn to list all the things that DJT did that diminished the quality of your life and hurt the country. Your hurt feelings do not count! LOL!
                        For all of the good things you alleged, just remember what he did to his gullible fools on 1-6-21. He had them attack our democracy for him on lies about a legit election. When it didn't work out he left them hanging. Such a great leader. It just showed what a coward that he really is. Keep supporting him and I hope he is the republican candidate in 2024.
                        Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                        • Barbecueboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 18116

                          #42
                          Sure you do........
                          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                          • ss12
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3864

                            #43
                            lurker

                            I’d much prefer --- a Trey Gowdy, Jim Jordan, or Jason Chaffetz type.

                            If the Conman is still in charge of the republican party. Your choice will be DeSantis or Hawley.
                            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                            • ss12
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3864

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                              Sure you do........
                              Did you vote for him in 2020?
                              Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #45
                                18 times....mostly by mail and a few times at the polling spots using a disguise and my deceased great great grandparents identification.

                                But, it just wasn't enough .......ill try harder next time.
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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