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  • Buford.Justice
    Senior Member
    • May 2020
    • 4981

    #76
    Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
    There will never be a time where everybody is satisfied with who makes the rules and who doesn't. Countless laws are put in place to protect people even though those laws restrict what people can do. The usual response is "if you let them do these mask mandates, you're letting them take control. Where does it stop?"... somewhere, but i don't think mask mandates should be the limit for people.
    Evil people making the laws will never work.
    If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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    • Buford.Justice
      Senior Member
      • May 2020
      • 4981

      #77
      For the latest breakdown of the VAERS data, this what the CDC is now reporting.

      4,057 deaths.

      17,190 serious injuries.

      192,954 reports of adverse events.

      https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/14/c...=newsletter_wr


      Pretty disturbing report. Ole Joe does not care about the children obviously.
      If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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      • Osiris125
        Banned
        • Mar 2021
        • 156

        #78
        Several issues with that source, even if you don't include the fact that its a site where apparently anybody can submit articles and literally shows its intense bias in its own name. As for the numbers, the article neglects to mention how 1. The CDC openly states that blood clots and allergic reactions (something that can generally be handled where the vaccine is received) are the only reactions they have found evidence to be caused by the vaccine. The writer also claims that VAERS only covers 1% of actual reactions with nothing to back up said claim. There's also an issue with the article misrepresenting what VAERS and the CDC are saying. The vast majority of listed deaths are reported as happening shortly after receiving the vaccine, this is very different from the CDC saying that they happened BECAUSE of the vaccine. There's a lot more issues with this but I'm short on time rn so I'll just end with adding that if the vaccine actually caused the deaths of 4,400 people (an updated number), that is about .0017% of people dying shortly after a vaccine dose. Almost 100x less than the percentage of people who catch COVID and died from it.

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        • dirtMAN007
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 5691

          #79
          Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
          Several issues with that source, even if you don't include the fact that its a site where apparently anybody can submit articles and literally shows its intense bias in its own name. As for the numbers, the article neglects to mention how 1. The CDC openly states that blood clots and allergic reactions (something that can generally be handled where the vaccine is received) are the only reactions they have found evidence to be caused by the vaccine. The writer also claims that VAERS only covers 1% of actual reactions with nothing to back up said claim. There's also an issue with the article misrepresenting what VAERS and the CDC are saying. The vast majority of listed deaths are reported as happening shortly after receiving the vaccine, this is very different from the CDC saying that they happened BECAUSE of the vaccine. There's a lot more issues with this but I'm short on time rn so I'll just end with adding that if the vaccine actually caused the deaths of 4,400 people (an updated number), that is about .0017% of people dying shortly after a vaccine dose. Almost 100x less than the percentage of people who catch COVID and died from it.
          You cannot even see the hypocrisy in that post ? Of course not !

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          • Osiris125
            Banned
            • Mar 2021
            • 156

            #80
            You won't, but I'll go ahead and ask for you to explain the hypocrisy. I made my reply in a rush so maybe I did indeed miss something

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            • dirtMAN007
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 5691

              #81
              Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
              You won't, but I'll go ahead and ask for you to explain the hypocrisy. I made my reply in a rush so maybe I did indeed miss something
              You say they died after but not because of the vaccine ? But you believe every counted COVID death is actually a COVID death!

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              • Buford.Justice
                Senior Member
                • May 2020
                • 4981

                #82
                Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
                Several issues with that source, even if you don't include the fact that its a site where apparently anybody can submit articles and literally shows its intense bias in its own name. As for the numbers, the article neglects to mention how 1. The CDC openly states that blood clots and allergic reactions (something that can generally be handled where the vaccine is received) are the only reactions they have found evidence to be caused by the vaccine. The writer also claims that VAERS only covers 1% of actual reactions with nothing to back up said claim. There's also an issue with the article misrepresenting what VAERS and the CDC are saying. The vast majority of listed deaths are reported as happening shortly after receiving the vaccine, this is very different from the CDC saying that they happened BECAUSE of the vaccine. There's a lot more issues with this but I'm short on time rn so I'll just end with adding that if the vaccine actually caused the deaths of 4,400 people (an updated number), that is about .0017% of people dying shortly after a vaccine dose. Almost 100x less than the percentage of people who catch COVID and died from it.
                What the H do you think CNN MSNBC and the other rags do. If it fits their agenda they stick a camera and mic on anybody with two legs. And then they are true patriots (true revolutionaries) right???

                I expect nothing less than an attempt to delegitimize anything that does not fit the left wing propaganda category.

                Truth = Lies

                Lies = Truth
                Last edited by Buford.Justice; 05-15-2021, 07:31 PM.
                If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                • Osiris125
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 156

                  #83
                  Originally posted by dirtMAN007 View Post
                  You say they died after but not because of the vaccine ? But you believe every counted COVID death is actually a COVID death!
                  The CDC publishes it's death count based on death certificates that list COVID as either the primary or an underlying cause of death. Both my numbers are based on the CDC's findings. I still see no hypocrisy here

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                  • Osiris125
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2021
                    • 156

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Buford.Justice View Post
                    What the H do you think CNN MSNBC and the other rags do. If it fits their agenda they stick a camera and mic on anybody with two legs. And then they are true patriots (true revolutionaries) right??? I expect nothing less than an attempt to delegitimize anything that does not fit the left wing propaganda category. Truth = LiesLies = Truth
                    Pretty much everybody working for mainstream news sources have some form of traceable work experience and education. Even small town newspapers tend to require a formal education before hiring someone to be a writer. This is pretty different from a website where literally anybody can submit articles for.

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                    • lurker
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 3186

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
                      The CDC publishes it's death count based on death certificates that list COVID as either the primary or an underlying cause of death.
                      Aren’t most other causes of death down? If I’m not mistaken, Barbecueboy has pointed this out this flaw on numerous occasions, right?

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                      • Osiris125
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 156

                        #86
                        I'm not sure where he got his numbers, but other leading causes of death besides COVID for the most part INCREASED in 2020 according to the NCHS and NVSS. Those that went down, did so by at most 3-5k. https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/cont...5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

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                        • dirtMAN007
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 5691

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
                          I'm not sure where he got his numbers, but other leading causes of death besides COVID for the most part INCREASED in 2020 according to the NCHS and NVSS. Those that went down, did so by at most 3-5k. https://cdn.jamanetwork.com/ama/cont...5G5CRDK6RD3PGA
                          Do you ever listen to yourself ?

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                          • lurker
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 3186

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
                            ---- but other leading causes of death besides COVID for the most part INCREASED in 2020 according to the NCHS and NVSS. Those that went down, did so by at most 3-5k.
                            Hmmmmm? That’s weird, I thought for sure things like COPD, heart disease, diabetes, influenza, phenomena and such, all went down.

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                            • Osiris125
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 156

                              #89
                              Also, total deaths increased by 15% from 2019 to 2020

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                              • Barbecueboy
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 18116

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Osiris125 View Post
                                The CDC publishes it's death count based on death certificates that list COVID as either the primary or an underlying cause of death. Both my numbers are based on the CDC's findings. I still see no hypocrisy here
                                What do you see when you look at the stipen the hospitals get for reporting it as a covid related death? And be honest please.
                                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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