Black Issues

[CIRF]

Father absence and poverty go very much hand in hand regardless of race.

[Osiris125]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you on the helping hand to those that need the help. But to say that they were pushed to the bottom rungs of society for 80% of Americas existence is hogwash.I agree with a lot of that above post , but at some point everything has to stop being " all whiteys fault"and people need to take responsibility for what they are doing now, not keep bringing up what my great, great grandfather said to a member of their family 80 years ago.I'm sorry for what he may have said or did, but he's dead....and I wasn't around back then, don't fuking try and make me feel guilty for something I didn't do and wouldn't do now is the way I feel about all of it......I give every man and woman I come across my respect until I'm given a reason not to, skin color means zero.

I do agree that too many people focus on those that did terrible things generations ago. My 80% estimate is honestly conservative though. I reached that number by taking the age of the US (not including colonial times, so 1776-2021) and took the year 1969 as a time where I feel a lot of people act like racism died out. That is 193 out of the 245 years the US has existed where black people were either enslaved or legally segregated and explicitly discriminated against as a matter or general policy. That's not a part of me saying all whites suck, but that the black population spent generations pushed down by white people at the time. Irish people despised (despise?) British people for what their government did to Ireland in the past, the only difference is that the groups hate/hated each other based on location, not race.

[Osiris125]

That estimate is conservative to me as it would need to assume that everything racially wrong with the US died after the Civil Rights Movement, which it didn't.

[kidrock]

Father absence and poverty go very much hand in hand regardless of race.

Oh No we agree again lol

[CIRF]

Oh No we agree again lol

This has got to stop, Kid!! LOL!

[TS FAN]

I have worked with children of all races for over 40yrs in Church. The lack of father's in the home or even in the life of the Black Children is the major culprit for sure. I can tell you this, the black children often draw closer to me and other workers than any other race of people. They just want someone to care about them.

I have also had my share of black teens who before they got on Church buses to come to Church, were a hand full to say the least. I would say that we adults who worked with them have about a 60-70% success rate. The spiritual aspect of this is also still the number one thing in our lives and theirs.
However, I don't want to get into a debate of the importance that the spirit of Jesus plays into this.

Watching first hand and being in the middle of the politics of the sixties. I can say with full assurance that politicians cannot solve this problem. Most of all Democrats who want to keep them needy so they can con them into voting for them. Democrats are not a friend of blacks, never have been. Black activists still alive from the sixties more often than not will tell you this too

[ZERO25]

I have also had my share of black teens who before they got on Church buses to come to Church, were a hand full to say the least. I would say that we adults who worked with them have about a 60-70% success rate. The spiritual aspect of this is also still the number one thing in our lives and theirs.
However, I don't want to get into a debate of the importance that the spirit of Jesus plays into this.


Spot on!........After my dad had been saved a few years, he started a bus ministry at our church. He brought many black kids and some parents to church to hear the gospel. There were some older folks who did not want them there, but our pastor stood strong and told them the gospel was for everyone. I was only about 9 or 10, but was appalled who some of the people were that objected. You never know whats in the heart of some people!

[NorthAlabama]

'black people were either enslaved' was posted by the left. That statement is not all correct, many free blacks owned so-called slaves. Having a contract over some is given in the KJV, the master shall treat the servant good and vise versa, the question is how does a person get into that situation. Africans were captured and traded for goods in Africa by other Africans, notice how the blacks and the left denies that. The left is pushing this ideal that ALL blacks were whipped and treated so bad as black movie makers like Spike Lee push, who wants to push radical racial ideals, not correct again. Many servants had a great life and was treated so good. Some even stayed with their black and white so-called owners here in the USA. It is difficult for anyone of today to understand and we judge so badly due to our thinking. America is founded in the word of 'God', which will be removed in all government buildings by the left in the near future. The left also calls us a "Democratic Nation", we are not, we are a "Constitutional Republic" with democratic features. Something else, a young German lady told me about Hitler. She stated that Hitler's father was not fully accepted in the Banking World, maybe due to that they did not see him as a full Jew and did not have the right to hold such a banking position, thus Hitler swore to take revenge upon the Jewish people because his father was held back.

[NorthAlabama]

Here is an ideal. If blacks want to sue the USA for reparations of the amount of 18 Trillions Dollars, they need to start by going to the Congo area in Africa and find King Heroin, get their goat or cow which will be the payment of the African reparation, buy an extra seat on the plane, and fly back with their winnings.

[Osiris125]

'black people were either enslaved' was posted by the left. That statement is not all correct, many free blacks owned so-called slaves. Having a contract over some is given in the KJV, the master shall treat the servant good and vise versa, the question is how does a person get into that situation. Africans were captured and traded for goods in Africa by other Africans, notice how the blacks and the left denies that. The left is pushing this ideal that ALL blacks were whipped and treated so bad as black movie makers like Spike Lee push, who wants to push radical racial ideals, not correct again. Many servants had a great life and was treated so good. Some even stayed with their black and white so-called owners here in the USA. It is difficult for anyone of today to understand and we judge so badly due to our thinking. America is founded in the word of 'God', which will be removed in all government buildings by the left in the near future. The left also calls us a "Democratic Nation", we are not, we are a "Constitutional Republic" with democratic features. Something else, a young German lady told me about Hitler. She stated that Hitler's father was not fully accepted in the Banking World, maybe due to that they did not see him as a full Jew and did not have the right to hold such a banking position, thus Hitler swore to take revenge upon the Jewish people because his father was held back.

While others here had come to at least some form of agreement, you decide to go further off the deep end. Yes, there were some free blacks who owned slaves, but that amount is a tiny portion of free blacks who were a small portion of the African population in the south. If the usual Confederate-sympathiser numbers are used (there's little evidence showing an actual number of black slave owners), at most 4000 free blacks owned around 20,000 slaves by the start of the Civil War. That is 1.6% of free blacks owning 0.5% of slaves at the time. I've never seen anybody deny that Africans were involved in the slave trade, but it doesn't excuse European/American nations from providing a demand for slaves. I don't even know what the KJV has to do with this. American contracts are not backed by god or the church, but a secular government. Your logic that most slaves were treated well is completely subjective and is basically like saying sex trafficking is okay if the sex slaves are treated well. Blacks also staying with their former owners is an over-simplification of the immensely complicated Reconstruction period, it would take too long to explain this part. Who even cares about the semantics of what kind of government we have? What does that have to do with this thread? I love that the one source you tried to provide for anything here was a random German woman saying Hitler hated Jews to avenge his father... It has been well documented that Hitler despised his father, out of any possible reason for Hitler to hate Jewish people, this might be one of the worst.

[Osiris125]

I have worked with children of all races for over 40yrs in Church. The lack of father's in the home or even in the life of the Black Children is the major culprit for sure.

This may be a stupid question, but how in the world do you get the line breaks to work for your posts? No matter what codes I use, they don't seem to work and even your own breaks disappear when I quote them.

[Osiris125]

Here is an ideal. If blacks want to sue the USA for reparations of the amount of 18 Trillions Dollars, they need to start by going to the Congo area in Africa and find King Heroin, get their goat or cow which will be the payment of the African reparation, buy an extra seat on the plane, and fly back with their winnings.

Oh yeah, this post also assumes that because one journalist calls for that amount in reparations that they speak for the entirety of Black Americans.

[NorthAlabama]

'I've never seen anybody deny that Africans were involved in the slave trade' was posted. Why? Because the left will call them names if they bring up the truth, names like racist. The left does not acknowledge BLM is a Marxist group like the Black Panthers. They always have their one view agenda, and leave out a broad view of seeing things, which is called narrow minded on purpose with an agenda. Ever notice that the left is like a nagging wife? Just won't stop. Or a demonic 3 year old who has to get their way? They always have to be right, or is it the left?

[TS FAN]

This may be a stupid question, but how in the world do you get the line breaks to work for your posts? No matter what codes I use, they don't seem to work and even your own breaks disappear when I quote them.

Honestly I don't know. I am not to savvy on the internet. I type my posts and hope they come out.

[NorthAlabama]

When the pilot comes back to the passenger and states, "Sir, you can't fly with that ole goat in the seat next to you". The reply, " that's my nanny".