Peter Buttplug and his “ husband “ had a baby ?

[Barbecueboy]

I totally get what you guys are saying in terms of what the Scripture says and I fall right in line With every bit of that And believe like the rest of you do. But my point was here are two people trying to give a child a permanent home to live in,Show the child love and understanding and raise them the best they know how. As much as God despises homosexuality I have a hard time believing and that he would frown upon two human beings genuinely trying to give a child a better life.
Was my whole point about it must be one of the tough ones for god….despises homosexuality, but embraces love, peace and grace between all men and women.
Not that this is the case with pistol Pete and his wife but I think god would have no problem with any gay couples adopting one of those children they are throwing over the wall in Afghanistan.

[ZERO25]

Deuteronomy 5:9-10 is pretty clear stating that kids are punished for the sins of their fathers!

That should be a wake up call for each of us!

[Barbecueboy]

I struggle with that one……..

[fastford]

so in your post #16 BBQ , if a gay couple raises a child and teaches the bible , which is gods word , then god would approve ? I struggle with this one as well but I am not god so IDK.....jmo...

[TS FAN]

I understand What the Bible says, I understand that God does not approve of homosexuality but I also know that God does approve of forgiveness, love for your fellow human being

All men sin and all can be forgiven. This is exactly what Scriptures says so you are correct. As far as those who choose to accept the gift of Christ for eternal life should hate the sin but love the sinner.

However, people who choose to actively pursue a homosexual life and then want to raise children cannot possibly teach their children or allow a bible believing Church to show them the way to Christ.
It makes things confusing to children to say the least.

Btw there is plenty of testimony of people who have homo desires coming to Christ for salvation. They
say that the Lord's spirit helps them to stop pursuing the activity. Just saying.

[Barbecueboy]

so in your post #16 BBQ , if a gay couple raises a child and teaches the bible , which is gods word , then god would approve ? I struggle with this one as well but I am not god so IDK.....jmo...

Nor am I so I don’t know either…..this is probably a bad analogy but does god hate homosexuality enough to have a problem with a gay man or woman donating a kidney to save another persons life that wasn’t gay? Does he hate homosexuality so much that he doesn’t allow a gay person to give a child a better life?

The God I know talks about forgiveness of sins , you just have to recognize and admit you’ve sinned and ask for forgiveness.

I think it’s silly for us all to sit here and act like we all know how gay couples are going to do nothing but teach their kids how to be gay…..I don’t know the numbers and certainly don’t claim to but if truth be known aren’t most lqbtq people raised by moms and dads that aren’t gay? But the child is anyway?

Doesn’t that fly in the face of the argument that gay couples will only produce gay immoral kids?

All just questions that I don’t have an answer for, way above my pay grade.

[Buford.Justice]

If the couple is platonic, I would find it A ton better of a situation, for the children's sake.

Innocent children should not have to pay for those who choose to have unconventional relations.

[fastford]

if the child was raised by mom,s and dad,s that was not gay and decided when old enough they ( the child ) were gay , then thats there choice , on the other hand , if the child was raised by gay parents and indoctrinated as such , the child never really had a chance to decide , BBQ , i actually feel the same as you , and even though I have had a few gay friends over the years , I personally dont agree with there choice , maybe because of my indoctrination as a Christian , either way , I am not condemning any one to h3ll , thats not my role in this world...

[Barbecueboy]

if the child was raised by mom,s and dad,s that was not gay and decided when old enough they ( the child ) were gay , then thats there choice , on the other hand , if the child was raised by gay parents and indoctrinated as such , the child never really had a chance to decide , BBQ , i actually feel the same as you , and even though I have had a few gay friends over the years , I personally dont agree with there choice , maybe because of my indoctrination as a Christian , either way , I am not condemning any one to h3ll , thats not my role in this world...

I’m trying to keep my own self out of hell, certainly not my call to condemn someone there for sinning…..thanks for the civil conversation on it everyone.

Like you I don’t agree with the whole “ same sex bed partner” choices that homosexuality embraces and believe it’s a sin….but also like you I don’t judge or condemn their choice in any way either because it’s their choice and their consequences…..doesn’t affect how I feel about pulling them out of a ditch or offering to help if help is needed or asked for.

[fastford]

Well said BBQboy ......

[Barbecueboy]

And besides……there’s a few more pressing issues going on in the world I’m concerned more about right now that far out weigh the faks given on pete and repeats gayness while adopting…..maybe having a child in the house will make him realize he doesn’t have to be the center of attention all the time and will improve his skills at work.
Win win for us if that ever happens and he’s still in office.

[dirtMAN007]

The only thing I would add is when one sins and admits their sin is different than saying what they are doing is not a sin . But like you said it’s their choice and their consequences !

[Barbecueboy]

I’m really not trying to convince or change anyones minds of anything , we all have our beliefs and lord knows our opinions….I just think it’s time to get past the whole gay parents have a gay factory going on when it comes to the families they raise.
I just don’t see that being true and even if it were , who cares anymore?

[TS FAN]

One last comment from me on this. God does not send anyone to eternal (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ation. Man sends himself there by denying the death, burial and raising again of Jesus and repenting of their sins in their heart. The Hand of Christ is extended to all who truly want to receive him.

The topic of gays raising children is covered by the Lord's condemning homo activities. The Lord is not the author of confusion, man is.

[Barbecueboy]

So if the couple is gay the lord would rather a child not be adopted and live a life as an orphan with no family , roots,stability and most importantly love, understanding and faith?

Mmmm, not the god I know? But maybe I don’t know the one you do.