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FBI searched Trump's Mar-A-Lago home.
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Oh sh!t!!!! You are totally off base and full of it. When I want to read something totally rediculous and absurd, all I have to do is wait for ss and jr. HahahahahahaaaOriginally posted by jr29 View PostBBQ, I'll wait and see about this.
January 6 committee has done a good job. Almost every witness was a Trump loyalist at one point. Nary a democrat took the stand that I'm aware of. Trump was totally, 100% willfully negligent that day. I'm not sure he should go to jail for it, but it's probably the worst leadership ever shown by a President.
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The example of Comey's actions in October 2016 is a unique one. You can bet it was something he absolutely didn't want to do because the cover for Hillary was already laid down. It was the revelations of the Anthony Weiner scandal and his connection to Hillary's aid Huma Abedin and their access to info that was on Hillary's device(s) that made them reopen the matter just before the election. Comey gave it another inelegant smooth over. It can be debated whether the incident hurt Cankles and helped Trump but in the end, she was a lousy and unlikable candidate and probably lost all on her own.
As far as Whitewater and the special counsel is concerned I'll admit, that made me take a second look at the employment of special counsels. Once a SC is appointed, it becomes a never-ending free for all and that sword cuts both ways. But, that being said, during that time the Clintons were notorious for slow dragging any cooperation in the matter. The duration and timeline of Whitewater lays at their feet. I still remember the lines, "Oh that's old news. Oh you're still talking about that?" They made Ken Starr work for everything he got.
Fast forward a little bit and the big budget battle between the Gingrich congress and Bill Clinton was on. Remember the government shutdown? Clinton was very famous for saying, bring it on, we'll blame it on Gingrich, and the voters will believe us. Clinton got his way. Because government was shut down there was less staff on hand. It made it possible for Bill Clinton to meet young staffer Monica Lewinsky in a happy accident of fate. She was delivering him a pizza if I recall. Then things blossomed after that, you might say even - exploded. The fate of the incident was a creation of their political manipulation of the shutdown. The only thing worse than getting what you want - is sometimes getting just what you want.
More slow dragging by the Clintons and more tenacity by Ken Starr and the blue dress was discovered. Bill Clinton wasn't impeached because of a BJ, he faced impeachment for lying under oath. Historically we can look at this and say it was an overreach by the Republicans. What guy wouldn't have told that lie? When you look at Hillary, who could blame him? Look at what the Kennedys were up to in the White House just thirty years prior to that?
But in those examples that were cited and considered, no where was the FBI playing an active role on one side of the equation as a partisan participant. They didn't cause Hillary to use a private server to store State Department info. They didn't leak fake information to the press about her just so they could go to judges and say - look what they are writing, we need FISA warrants. No FBI agents said let's send this young big booty honeypot into the Oval Office and get her to compromise the president and make sure she gets some skeet for evidence.
The behavior of today's FBI and DOJ is very partisan and one sided in their application of resources and it is obvious. It went back to Obama with Lois Lerner and the IRS targeting conservative groups. Garland sends agents to school board meetings to intimidate parents concerned about curriculum. Churches and pro-life organizations are having their facilities vandalized and firebombed. Where's the FBI on that? People are encouraging violence against supreme court justices and there was a legitimate attempt on one's life. Boy, that went away quick. No accountability for those who uttered the words of encouragement there. The summer of violence in 2020 with all the damage, rioting, looting, burning, and dozens of deaths. Yet, we constantly hear the drumbeat that white supremacists are the number one threat in this country. Yeah right. Where has the FBI been on finding those people and holding them accountable?
In the Mueller example. The failure there was that there was no there, there. It was the time and resources spent that attempted to cast doubt in the minds of the public. More than two years of the breathless reports of yet - another bombshell, another anonymous source says charges are coming, and then nothing. Nothingburger was what you got because nothing was there. It was all made up from a piece of campaign opposition research. A couple process violations totally unrelated to the root investigation because, that's what special counsels do. But in the Mueller example, the FBI was playing a role, a very active role.
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BBQ, I buy groceries too. It stinks right now. Look at the grandstands at most of these races right now though. They are packed. Monday night in Superior Wisconsin...packed.
It's not as bad as a lot on the right want us to believe.
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Most of America doesn’t really feel saved right now…….I appreciate the civil conversation like always but Biden hasn’t saved anyone but himself and his political life by winning the election in a very sketchy outcome.Originally posted by jr29 View PostWe can get past inflation and high gas prices. I'm not sure about another four years of fascist control. Biden saved us from that.
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But he did request equal time ! If the other side has nothing to hide why not ? I’m pretty sure that soon the time will come when a lot of people will decide that there is only one option left ?Originally posted by jr29 View PostIf you are looking for me to defend Hillary's email stuff I'm not going to. She stinks. She did testify though.
None of Trump's quack sidekicks or Trump himself have agreed to. If they would we'd hear their side.
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Hillary wasn’t testifying in front of a bunch of whiny butthurt politicians and she knew she would be treated fairly……..this clown show now, no way anyone being treated fairly.Originally posted by jr29 View PostIf you are looking for me to defend Hillary's email stuff I'm not going to. She stinks. She did testify though.
None of Trump's quack sidekicks or Trump himself have agreed to. If they would we'd hear their side.
I’m not looking for you to defend anything, just acknowledge it when you know it’s true.
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We can get past inflation and high gas prices. I'm not sure about another four years of fascist control. Biden saved us from that.
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I like how all of the election fraud only helped the dems on the Presidential ticket that night. They didn't do too well other than that.
A few things went on that shouldn't have, nothing that would have changed the outcome. We've heard it dozens of times from Republican and Democrat governors and Ag's in these swing states. Court after court, many judges appointed by Trump have shot this nonsense down.
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We agree to disagree on this one, I don’t remember the country being in such sad shape between 2016 and 2020.Originally posted by jr29 View PostBiden wasn't my pick either. He's done some good stuff, other stuff not so much and he is definitely too old. He's a d@#n sight better than Trump though.
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If you are looking for me to defend Hillary's email stuff I'm not going to. She stinks. She did testify though.
None of Trump's quack sidekicks or Trump himself have agreed to. If they would we'd hear their side.
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Higher than a Georgia pine……Originally posted by Rajflyboy View PostPersonally after last night I think the chances of voter fraud/vote tampering in 2020 are pretty darn high.
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They couldn’t change them…. There is no paygrade for that.Originally posted by jr29 View PostSo are all of the republican Governors and AG's who refused to change the election results acting in good faith ?
The election was heavily manipulated, anybody that was paying attention that wasn’t a homer for either side but is a homer for the United States of America could see it.
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Biden wasn't my pick either. He's done some good stuff, other stuff not so much and he is definitely too old. He's a d@#n sight better than Trump though.
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