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  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #46
    Originally posted by jr29 View Post
    That's the part of the increase, along with his overall push toward green energy, that I would blame him for. That does not account for all of the increase we've seen though. Not even close. The merits of shutting the pipeline down are another matter.
    Fuel prices went up worldwide as we came out of covid restrictions. Those increases were projected in the spring and summer of 2020. Inflation was already in the forecast too. It's happened around world.

    I appreciate the rational, sane dialogue.
    Mr Biden has directly blamed almost all of the energy issues America is having on “Putins war”……over and over.
    It’s the typical political blame game …..instead of looking within for the problem.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • jr29
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 829

      #47
      Russia did not help. You can look at the correlation between the time of the invasion and fuel prices skyrocketing. It absolutely played a part. It wasn't the only cause though and the White House and Biden have sounded silly when they solely blame Russia.

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      • Buford.Justice
        Senior Member
        • May 2020
        • 4981

        #48
        Seems that Putin's war is now causing gas prices to fall??????????????

        Yes CW if Putin's war caused gas prices to go up, then why have they been going down for several months? Answer: the left had to blame anything but themselves and they just had all the medias spew the "Putin's War" BS every day hoping that the under and misinformed people would buy it. Obviously we have such people right here on good ole 4M!!!!!

        Knock Knock!!!! Nobody home!!!
        Last edited by Buford.Justice; 12-02-2022, 10:46 AM.
        If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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        • Barbecueboy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 18116

          #49
          Originally posted by jr29 View Post
          Russia did not help. You can look at the correlation between the time of the invasion and fuel prices skyrocketing. It absolutely played a part. It wasn't the only cause though and the White House and Biden have sounded silly when they solely blame Russia.
          Yes, it has made them sound silly and out of touch with reality…..their problem is that they think everyone they are talking to believes them.

          Contrary to popular belief, all Americans aren’t lazy and stupid…..the Biden folks just think they are.
          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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          • jr29
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 829

            #50
            Folks are too lazy to research the actual reason for fuel prices. It's easy to blame the President when they are high and a lot of lazy, narrow minded folks do that.
            Every single administration ever would have spun this, except Jimmy Carter's. We see how that worked for him. The spin machine coming out of the White House now is no worse than most. They are in the "spin minor leagues" compared to the DT administration. They literally said they were presenting "alternative facts" and the followers marched right along.
            Last edited by jr29; 12-01-2022, 04:24 PM.

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            • Morgs153
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 842

              #51
              The price drop for energy (gas prices) was not because of Obama's policies, it was in spite of them. Obama could do nothing to stop the booming of fracking, especially in North Dakota, which was happening almost exclusively on private lands. It was ironic that one of things he was most against - hydraulic fracturing - was something that was actually making his economy look good during those later years of his administration.
              Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.

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              • jr29
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 829

                #52
                Originally posted by Morgs153 View Post
                The price drop for energy (gas prices) was not because of Obama's policies, it was in spite of them. Obama could do nothing to stop the booming of fracking, especially in North Dakota, which was happening almost exclusively on private lands. It was ironic that one of things he was most against - hydraulic fracturing - was something that was actually making his economy look good during those later years of his administration.
                Not totally untrue.

                There was this though....
                President Donald Trump is given the lion's share of the ongoing renaissance of the domestic oil and gas industry, and deservedly so. But a key bill-signing by his predecessor, Barack Obama, played a crucial role in accelerating the process.


                Obama picked his battles wisely. I wonder if someone, anyone on here will have something good to say about him after reading that article.

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                • Buford.Justice
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2020
                  • 4981

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Morgs153 View Post
                  The price drop for energy (gas prices) was not because of Obama's policies, it was in spite of them. Obama could do nothing to stop the booming of fracking, especially in North Dakota, which was happening almost exclusively on private lands. It was ironic that one of things he was most against - hydraulic fracturing - was something that was actually making his economy look good during those later years of his administration.
                  Yes that is true. And some more truth is, is the fact that shutting oil drilling and fracking like Biden has done from day one is the reason for the gas prices goiing up, and they think people are stupid enough to believe blaming Putin or all the other lame lying excuses they come up with. This is not a competent or legitimate government in power right now and they are following an agenda to ruin America and destroy wealth in the middle class as well as all around. It is foolish to legitimize these peoples excuses and lies coming from their mouths and that silly incompetent spokes woman who literally lies and deflects everything. Except of course, get your vaccines and it's Putins war. What a pure hack that pathetic display of "diversity" is!!!
                  If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!

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                  • lurker
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 3186

                    #54
                    Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                    Obama picked his battles wisely. I wonder if someone, anyone on here will have something good to say about him after reading that article.
                    Although Obama wasn’t my type of President, I always give him credit for the good things he did. That’s something the Trump haters can’t say.

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                    • jr29
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 829

                      #55
                      This board is full of folks who won't say one good thing about Biden, Obama, Clinton, or about any democrat.
                      Trump just didn't do much that I liked. There were a few things that were cool. Overall, he did things that most every Republican would do and was a complete embarrassment the whole time.
                      He's nuttier now than ever btw.

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                      • Raceready
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 4737

                        #56
                        Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                        This board is full of folks who won't say one good thing about Biden, Obama, Clinton, or about any democrat.Trump just didn't do much that I liked. There were a few things that were cool. Overall, he did things that most every Republican would do and was a complete embarrassment the whole time.He's nuttier now than ever btw.
                        You are just a barrel of laughs ,aren't you ? ?

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                        • Morgs153
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2020
                          • 842

                          #57
                          "Obama picked his battles wisely. I wonder if someone, anyone on here will have something good to say about him after reading that article."

                          He kept himself slim.

                          He seemed like a loving and doting father, sending his wife and daughters on lavish trips all over the world.

                          There, I said nice things.
                          Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.

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                          • ss12
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3732

                            #58
                            Originally posted by jr29 View Post
                            This board is full of folks who won't say one good thing about Biden, Obama, Clinton, or about any democrat.
                            Trump just didn't do much that I liked. There were a few things that were cool. Overall, he did things that most every Republican would do and was a complete embarrassment the whole time.
                            He's nuttier now than ever btw.
                            Jr29, unfortunately you are dealing with some gullible fools who will vote for anyone with a "R" behind their name. The conman has proven that. The republican party loves these gullible fools. The republican could run a monkey and these gullible fools would vote for the monkey. Mitch McConnell as already said if the conman was the republican candidate for the presidency, he would vote for him. These gullible fools will do the same. Sooner are later the republicans will realize that Candidates Matter.
                            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                            • jr29
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 829

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Morgs153 View Post
                              "Obama picked his battles wisely. I wonder if someone, anyone on here will have something good to say about him after reading that article."

                              He kept himself slim.

                              He seemed like a loving and doting father, sending his wife and daughters on lavish trips all over the world.

                              There, I said nice things.
                              It's my fault for not being more specific.
                              You still proved my point though.

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                              • jr29
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 829

                                #60
                                Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                                Jr29, unfortunately you are dealing with some gullible fools who will vote for anyone with a "R" behind their name. The conman has proven that. The republican party loves these gullible fools. The republican could run a monkey and these gullible fools would vote for the monkey. Mitch McConnell as already said if the conman was the republican candidate for the presidency, he would vote for him. These gullible fools will do the same. Sooner are later the republicans will realize that Candidates Matter.
                                There is definitely about thirty percent of our country who would support My Pillow as a high level government official.

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