Originally posted by Buford.Justice
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Somebody check on SS please.
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Before I argue with you I need to ask myself are you mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective because if not there's absolutely no point. And well that's the end of this argument. lmfao..
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Originally posted by kidrock View PostBBQ I don't usually get worked up over who is President but, I have to admit for me Trump is not a nice guy and one I would not want to see become President ever again, I hate the idea it looks like we might have Trump and Biden as our candidates but, whoever wins I will accept it and move on and live my life with either a little more money in my pocket or a little less. I know people ask are you better off than 4 years ago and I say yes because in 3 weeks and 3 days my wife and I will be paying off our house and be Totally debt free and we accomplished that no matter who's been President.
You big cop out, you are not better off, why are you not even honest to people and tell them why you are. Who is not better off with a paid off house, that doesn't mean "the people" are better off too, you selfish twit!!!
Merry Trumpsmas kidrock

Sheeeeeesh! This guy never changes, a man is not nice when he calls out the other party with facts and stands with and for the people for making America great again! Unsaid reason is that he's a Republican. What's wrong with those things?Last edited by Buford.Justice; 11-28-2023, 05:53 PM.
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There you go again. Orange man bad, like a brainwashed lemming. But not saying why he is not a nice guy. Does his exposing Democrats for what they are and are doing the reason by chance, or just why do you keep saying this?Originally posted by kidrock View PostBBQ I don't usually get worked up over who is President but, I have to admit for me Trump is not a nice guy and one I would not want to see become President ever again, I hate the idea it looks like we might have Trump and Biden as our candidates but, whoever wins I will accept it and move on and live my life with either a little more money in my pocket or a little less. I know people ask are you better off than 4 years ago and I say yes because in 3 weeks and 3 days my wife and I will be paying off our house and be Totally debt free and we accomplished that no matter who's been President.
And you never say JB is not a nice guy. Even though he lies, and is nasty on video constantly.
Not to mention him and his family are sold out to China, and other corrupt leaders worldwide.
The facts don't lie, if you want idiots like JB running the nation that's your priviledge, but most of us don't...
My summary is, you are clueless, and will never get it... hahahaha
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BBQ I don't usually get worked up over who is President but, I have to admit for me Trump is not a nice guy and one I would not want to see become President ever again, I hate the idea it looks like we might have Trump and Biden as our candidates but, whoever wins I will accept it and move on and live my life with either a little more money in my pocket or a little less. I know people ask are you better off than 4 years ago and I say yes because in 3 weeks and 3 days my wife and I will be paying off our house and be Totally debt free and we accomplished that no matter who's been President.
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BBQ, there are many people that ARE directly affected though. Like the ones that lost thier jobs when factories closed and went to Mexico for example. And the people that lost their jobs and in some cases their lives because a president mandated vaccines and boosters. More examples are also out there.
And right now millions are affected by massive illegal immigration, green lighted by the Resident. Imagine living anywhere near the southern border, or in big cities as 450 billions tax dollars have been spent paying for this immigration invasion. 450 billion yes that is insane.
But be thankful you have not been directly affected by these intentional disasters, or at least not so far.
Deep rural America is now seeing the illegal immigration affects. For example a small city of 14.000 here in southern Indiana has suddenly seen a huge apartment complex being built rapidly and is now nearly full of residents. As I drove through this complex I noticed nothing but coal black people that did not seem to be native to America whatsoever on the patios and parking lot.
I would say that the turkey plant is now thiers almost exclusively. If you worked there would you stay?
This is not assimilation or anything positive for this nation. It is a road to our demise.Last edited by Buford.Justice; 11-28-2023, 03:55 PM.
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lurker I'm sure ss could blame Trump for several counts of this also.. hahahahaa
Meanwhile in Realville, who was the president that signed NAFTA and sent businesses heading for Mexico, Canada, and just plain out of the US?
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People that get worked up about who the president are the same people that get worked up about who the Kroger manager is……..Kroger runs itself basically because of its systems, The manager of it controls very little and impacts my life to the same degree…very littleOriginally posted by kidrock View PostLurker you've been around long enough to know if you are President you get blamed for everything. Just ask any President. It doesn't matter if you had anything to do with it or not. You're getting blamed. President Truman said "The Buck stops here".
Same can be said about the president of the United States lately…….he manages what’s there to the best of his ability, if he has little ability then things get kind of wonky….which is where we are today.
Trump nor Biden nor ( insert whoever you want) the next guy are important enough to me to control my every waking thought…..I trust them to manage what’s there correctly and when they don’t they get replaced with the next manager.
You guys that live and breathe this stuff and take it personally are making yourselves miserable for no reason…….
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People that work for others often don’t realize this…..they are awake, or awoke and nobody home….if you know what I mean.Originally posted by kidrock View PostGM profit for 2022 was 20.981 Billion. 17.878 Billion in 2021 and 13.672 Billion in 2020 so, the last 3 years that's 52.531 Billion enough money to pay back us tax's payers and increase the pay of their workers.
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What Was the 2008 Great Recession?
The Great Recession was the sharp decline in economic activity that started in 2007 and lasted several years, spilling into global economies. It is considered the most significant downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930s. The term "Great Recession" applies to both the U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009, and the ensuing global recession in 2009.
First, the report identified failure on the part of the government to regulate the financial industry. This failure to regulate included the Fed’s inability to stop banks from giving mortgages to people who subsequently proved to be a bad credit risk.
Next, too many financial firms took on too much risk. The shadow banking system, which included investment firms, grew to rival the depository banking system but was not under the same scrutiny or regulation. When the shadow banking system failed, the collapse impacted the flow of credit to consumers and businesses.
Who wanted to bail the automakers?
President George W. Bush announced a $17.4 billion bailout to General Motors and Chrysler, of which $13.4 billion would be extended immediately.
Without federal aid, GM and Chrysler warned, they faced bankruptcy and the loss of 1 million jobs. (Ford, the remaining “Big Three†automaker, said it didn’t need the funds since it had already cut costs. But it asked to be included so it wouldn’t suffer by having to compete with subsidized companies.)
Lurker who pulled us out of the great recession of 2007-2009? Democrat Obama Who got us out of the mess of Cult45 covid fiasco? Democrat Biden. Republicans get us in messes and the democrats get us out!
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Lurker you've been around long enough to know if you are President you get blamed for everything. Just ask any President. It doesn't matter if you had anything to do with it or not. You're getting blamed. President Truman said "The Buck stops here".
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I gott’a admit, you’ve got me miffed on this one ss12.
Know going in, I’m not a fan of Bush 43, never was.
Didn’t know it was Bush 43 fault. And I’ve never heard anyone say the such before. Can you tell me more in your own typing words without any cut and paste.Originally posted by ss12 View PostAnd if wasn't for the Bush (43 republican President) mess up the economy in 2008 GM wouldn't have needed a bailout in 2009.
I’ve never heard anyone tie an insolvent corporation directly to a President.
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If the company had any ethics about them at all they would give us back our money. I guess we could blame the union workers for that while were at it. lol...........................
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GM profit for 2022 was 20.981 Billion. 17.878 Billion in 2021 and 13.672 Billion in 2020 so, the last 3 years that's 52.531 Billion enough money to pay back us tax's payers and increase the pay of their workers.
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By the way revenues and PROFITS are two different things.Last edited by Buford.Justice; 11-27-2023, 09:12 PM.
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And if wasn't for the Bush (43 republican President) mess up the economy in 2008 GM wouldn't have needed a bailout in 2009.
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