US steel

[Barbecueboy]

Yes sometimes that means some will lose their job but, that's just progress and what we learned you can't stop progress.

Well, the current administration sure does seem to be slowing it waaaay down……so there’s that.

[fastford]

So sorry to hear this is happening But, the new owners have said they plan to keep all collective bargain agreements and looks forward to having a relationship with them. So that means keeping the wages and benefits. So maybe the wages and benefits are not the problem but, it easier to blame the union I get that. lol

collective bargaining can happen with out union involvement , it happens at honda US all the time , but if you think Nicon will tolerate some of the ridiculous union request US steel has . well . I have some swamp land in Arizona for sell cheap....lol....

[kidrock]

You have me curious to some of these Union request. Do you have first hand knowledge? I'm always curious has what different unions ask for or have under their contract.

[jog49]

Here we are many years later . . . still experiencing Ross Perot's "Giant Sucking Sound"!

[fastford]

[QUOTE=kidrock;2475760]You have me curious to some of these Union request. Do you have first hand knowledge? I'm always curious has what different unions ask for or have under their contract.[/QU no first hand knowledge , except my uncle . who worked in a quarry 30 years and was the union steward for years , in this case , his company , georgia marble , was bought out by another company , ECC , they were told if the union stayed out , the georgia marble transfers would get the same benefits as there none union workers , which was better all the way around , he was older and on the verge of retiring and had already had his fill of the union because it had changed so much , the younger employees could not see this and voted the union in any way , he retired with half the salary under union agreement than he would have with the company non union plan , needless to say , after being a union man nearly his whole working life , he has no use for it now , as a lot of folks are waking up to see now , as I have said on here many times , there was a time and place where a union was needed but the whole union philosophy has changed and IMO its no longer relevant , also the honda workers in lincoln alabama , a non union company , can retire at 20 years and and has more benefits than any union job in these parts that I no of , except maybe the protection a lazy , sorry worker gets...I do think those rail road workers needed help and the union did help them , which is the way it use to be....

[kidrock]

So you really don't know if there are ridiculous demands in the contract. I thought you had first hand knowledge so, are just saying it to be saying it because you don't like unions? Yes some union retirement is not all that great but, I was fortunately in a good union.

I get a local union pension and a national union pension. I just received a letter from my local union that said I could sign a waiver to go back working in the phone business and I would not have to stop my pension because there is a shortage of workers. Now this would be a temporary waiver for one year. It sounds like I can't work any overtime by what I'm reading but, I would need to clarify that.

[Raceready]

[QUOTE=fastford;2475781]

You have me curious to some of these Union request. Do you have first hand knowledge? I'm always curious has what different unions ask for or have under their contract.[/QU no first hand knowledge , except my uncle . who worked in a quarry 30 years and was the union steward for years , in this case , his company , georgia marble , was bought out by another company , ECC , they were told if the union stayed out , the georgia marble transfers would get the same benefits as there none union workers , which was better all the way around , he was older and on the verge of retiring and had already had his fill of the union because it had changed so much , the younger employees could not see this and voted the union in any way , he retired with half the salary under union agreement than he would have with the company non union plan , needless to say , after being a union man nearly his whole working life , he has no use for it now , as a lot of folks are waking up to see now , as I have said on here many times , there was a time and place where a union was needed but the whole union philosophy has changed and IMO its no longer relevant , also the honda workers in lincoln alabama , a non union company , can retire at 20 years and and has more benefits than any union job in these parts that I no of , except maybe the protection a lazy , sorry worker gets...I do think those rail road workers needed help and the union did help them , which is the way it use to be....

This sounds as if many are the people that have been BAMBOOZELED by the antics of UNION strife?

[Buford.Justice]

So you really don't know if there are ridiculous demands in the contract. I thought you had first hand knowledge so, are just saying it to be saying it because you don't like unions? Yes some union retirement is not all that great but, I was fortunately in a good union.

I get a local union pension and a national union pension. I just received a letter from my local union that said I could sign a waiver to go back working in the phone business and I would not have to stop my pension because there is a shortage of workers. Now this would be a temporary waiver for one year. It sounds like I can't work any overtime by what I'm reading but, I would need to clarify that.

You need a good "pinchin"!!!!

[Raceready]

So you really don't know if there are ridiculous demands in the contract. I thought you had first hand knowledge so, are just saying it to be saying it because you don't like unions? Yes some union retirement is not all that great but, I was fortunately in a good union. I get a local union pension and a national union pension. I just received a letter from my local union that said I could sign a waiver to go back working in the phone business and I would not have to stop my pension because there is a shortage of workers. Now this would be a temporary waiver for one year. It sounds like I can't work any overtime by what I'm reading but, I would need to clarify that.

My elderly neighbor once told me that he would go on relief and be a reliefer before he would join a union ?

[kidrock]

My elderly neighbor once told me that he would go on relief and be a reliefer before he would join a union ?

The company ask me if I would join a union and I asked what benefit would I have joining a union and after they told me. I then asked what does it cost a month and after that I said where do I sign up. I started out in the warehouse and that was a nonunion job. They approached me with a open position as a Technician which meant I would have to join the union but, like I said after they told me the money I would make and the benefits, which included 2 union pension a retirement package from the company I said heck yes. I don't remember the amount of raise I got right of the start or how much I was making but, it way more than what I was making working in the warehouse and after 27 years the company and union treated me pretty good. They both made sure I got to my retirement date but, it's not for everyone but, it sure was for my family.

By the way Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[kidrock]

You need a good "pinchin"!!!!

Oh be nice. It's Christmas time. Merry Christmas to you and your family!!

[Buford.Justice]

My elderly neighbor once told me that he would go on relief and be a reliefer before he would join a union ?

Most people beleive that unions suck. Polls confirm this!!!

[Barbecueboy]

[QUOTE=Raceready;2475800]

This sounds as if many are the people that have been BAMBOOZELED by the antics of UNION strife?

He does normally paint himself right back into the corner like that when talking about unions…….I heard great news today a bout a union shop that represents some of the anheiser Busch employees suggesting they go on strike.

So if I’m hearing this correct , lazy workers will go on strike and receive crappy strike pay AND they won’t be able to brew bud or bud light anymore while on strike.

Win. Win,win,win,win,win.

[Barbecueboy]

The company ask me if I would join a union and I asked what benefit would I have joining a union and after they told me. I then asked what does it cost a month and after that I said where do I sign up. I started out in the warehouse and that was a nonunion job. They approached me with a open position as a Technician which meant I would have to join the union but, like I said after they told me the money I would make and the benefits, which included 2 union pension a retirement package from the company I said heck yes. I don't remember the amount of raise I got right of the start or how much I was making but, it way more than what I was making working in the warehouse and after 27 years the company and union treated me pretty good. They both made sure I got to my retirement date but, it's not for everyone but, it sure was for my family.

By the way Merry Christmas to you and your family!

And telecommunications are 30/40% more expensive than they should be because of it……but I’m happy for you that you put yourself in a spot to do the work, sounds like you were the exception versus the rule there.

[lurker]

anheiser Busch employees suggesting they go on strike.

Maybe they can be “Woke” Union strike employees.