Oligarchic Control from the Renaissance to the Information Age

[Highside Hustler25]

Dude, he was president of the United States for two terms. Not only that, he is incredibly charismatic and a role model for millions and achieved one of the highest final approval ratings in history. Of course he is going to have money. How and why is that a problem to you?

If he had any real control he would not of let Biden drop out. Simple. From all accounts I can see he stayed on the sidelines in the 2020 primaries. He's not as involved as you think. He's also not an oligarch. Oligarchs a incredibly rich businessman who can obtain through their wealth, great political influence. Obama is not that. Stop that narrative.

Glad we can agree on the book deals and yes it's a dodgy thing but it was irrelevant to Obama.

The point is not about whether Musk deserved said grants, it's about that he's tearing to shreds the government and it's spending when he receives so much himself just because he thinks its helpful and what everyone else gets is not.

X is a (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)hole full of right wing propaganda. Literally full of fake news. He bought it purely to use a propaganda platform. He goes after left wing influencers. It's not uncensored just because all the right wing (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) is given free reign.

Do you understand the amount of greed it takes to get to $400B. Seriously. This dude wants to rort the system for himself. This dude is not letting the value of his companies tank for no reason. He's not doing this out of good will.

Shell companies are not illegal. Besides virtually every one of those 'shell companies' the House oversight committee found all had legitimate business interests. Only $7.5M ever got to Hunter Biden and none was traced directly to Joe. Besides this is not a oligarch thing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-chelsea-clinton-did-not-235832349.html?guccounter=1

They only got around $7.5M. Not sure what your sources are but I'd love to have a look.

Want to know how I know your a MAGAt? You eat up their false bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) like it's nothing. The trans comic book in Peru, guess what? False claim. Trans opera in Columbia, guess what? False Claim. Sesame Street in Iraq? Partially false. The money went towards Sesame Workshop which is an early childhood development program. You help educate a struggling nation and you help build a trade partner.

As for Bill Clinton and the flights, yeh I'd love to see it. I don't care for Clinton for anyway. I wasn't a fan of him as president and I'm not too this day. He's a sleeze.

Trump was on that island buddy, pretty sure more than once but there's conflicting info. Trump is a paedo dude. Trump and Epstein were good friends. Trump said he 'was a lot of fun' to be around. He also said "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." Trump has also called a literal 10 year old beautfiul and said that he would be dating her in ten years. He also feels up his own daughter.

Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her,”.

Columnist Richard Cohen claimed in a draft for a Washington Post op-ed published in November 2016 that Donald Trump once allegedly asked him, “Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?” Ivanka was 13 at the time. THIRTEEN.

This was on Wendy Williams show.
Wendy: Ivanka, what's the favorite thing you have in common with your father? Ivanka: Either real estate or golf. Wendy: Donald, with your daughter? Donald: I was going to say sex.

“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father…,” Trump said.

When Dr. Oz said it was “nice to see a dad kiss his daughter,” Trump responded that he kisses Ivanka “every chance he gets.”

Oh and there's a whole host of (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) about when he owned Miss Universe.

Thoughts on that? This is just the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) he says out loud, imagine what he's thinking.

Looks like ss12 has got a new screen name 🙄

[Morgs153]

Either that or a protege. I'm leaning toward protege because ss12 was more into the drive-by stuff. Just posting clips with little other substance. This kid likes to write.

[Tyy7777]

Either that or a protege. I'm leaning toward protege because ss12 was more into the drive-by stuff. Just posting clips with little other substance. This kid likes to write.

Don't worry, I don't need to say much about this.

https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/mark-zuckerberg-washington-dc-woodland-normanstone/

[ftfiowa]

hows is everyones 401k looking? are those folks gonna wait 2 years like they have been asked b4 touching the savings? tariffs caused the last 2 great depressions fyi. im assuming all the followers of 47 left their $$$$$ in the market right?

[Tyy7777]

https://newrepublic.com/post/193860/donald-trump-brags-tariff-pause-made-billionaires-richer

This y'all's president? Openly bragging about how his tariff stunt made his billionaire buddies a lot of money. He isn't even hiding it. He knows how dumb and gullible his supporters are.

[Morgs153]

Kamala Harris had 83 billionaires donate to her campaign and raised more money than the Trump campaign. She very famously p!ssed through $1.5 billion and still they said they were a little short at the end. Donald Trump had 52 billionaire donors. Both sides have billionaire buddies kid.

The left was the side that cried to high heavens over the Citizens United decision but they seem to have taken full advantage of it in the years after.

In my home state yet another state supreme court election was bought by the left. The winning candidate received 78% of her donations from out of state (from Soros, Pritzker, etal). The losing candidate received 83% of his donations from in state (but yes, did get money from Musk and a few others). I'm not so sure the left wants to rid money from politics. When you have the bulk of the media, the entertainment industry, Wall Street, most unions and a big portion of the tech sector filling your pockets.

I wonder how Nancy and Paul Pelosi's portfolio looks nowadays. I'll bet they weathered the storm okay.

[Highside Hustler25]

The new republic. 🤣🤣🤣 How bout the Globe or National Inquirer.

[Tyy7777]

The new republic. 🤣🤣🤣 How bout the Globe or National Inquirer.

I don't particularly like the New Republic but they were one of the only outlets who posted a text article on what happened. Look it up. There is a video of it. You can't argue with what Trump said. It wasn't take it out of context. It happened.

[Tyy7777]

Kamala Harris had 83 billionaires donate to her campaign and raised more money than the Trump campaign. She very famously p!ssed through $1.5 billion and still they said they were a little short at the end. Donald Trump had 52 billionaire donors. Both sides have billionaire buddies kid.

The left was the side that cried to high heavens over the Citizens United decision but they seem to have taken full advantage of it in the years after.

In my home state yet another state supreme court election was bought by the left. The winning candidate received 78% of her donations from out of state (from Soros, Pritzker, etal). The losing candidate received 83% of his donations from in state (but yes, did get money from Musk and a few others). I'm not so sure the left wants to rid money from politics. When you have the bulk of the media, the entertainment industry, Wall Street, most unions and a big portion of the tech sector filling your pockets.

I wonder how Nancy and Paul Pelosi's portfolio looks nowadays. I'll bet they weathered the storm okay.

Trump spent all of the money he raised and then 17m extra. What's your point? The 83/52 Ratio was an outdated figure. I'm not sure it got recounted.

What's more important is context. The top 7 largest donors were ALL REPUBLICAN. 6 of them spent over 100 MILLION. 68% of the top 25 WERE REPUBLICAN. Those 7 donors accounted for roughly 72% of Trump's total funding.

Harris raised significantly more money through small donors than Trump did.

Trump has benefited significantly more than Harris due to the Citizens United case. A disproportionate amount of Trump's funding comes from the spending that case allowed. Roughly 68% of Trump's funding came from the 'outside groups' that that case allowed. That number is just 42% for Harris.

As for the Wisconsin Race, your figures are wrong. Not only can I not find them anywhere, they just aren't correct. What I can tell you is that what is referred to as "untraceable dark money" from things like superPACs favored Schimel by about 3:1. Schimel got just over $31M and Crawford around $12M. Musk was literally giving away money to people who supported Schimel. His biggest donation was around $11M that I could find.

Now look, I don't condone what Pelosi does at all. It's (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ed up and it's an area of US politics that needs great reform. With that being said Paul and Nancy would have been filthy rich regardless. An equal amount of Republicans do what she does.

MTG just bought up stock from 19 companies before Trump announced his tariff pause. Wow, isn't that convenient. That was the whole purpose of what Trump did. See my earlier post. HE BRAGGED ABOUT IT IN FRONT OF THE NATION.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that Pelosi has a very low reliance on Corporate Donors and PAC money.

[Buford.Justice]

TYY the purpose of USAID is for the corrupt Dems to have a almost totally corrupt slush fund and the laundering of billions for the Democrat party too grow itself and buy and compromise whoever else it can to join in. The people supporting it are either benefiting from it or ignorant fools. Many are paid for protesters who are actually clueless.

And also to spread Marxist/WOKE teachings to other foriegn countries throughout the world. How evil this deception of actually being US AID actually is.

[Tyy7777]

TYY the purpose of USAID is for the corrupt Dems to have a almost totally corrupt slush fund and the laundering of billions for the Democrat party too grow itself and buy and compromise whoever else it can to join in. The people supporting it are either benefiting from it or ignorant fools. Many are paid for protesters who are actually clueless.

And also to spread Marxist/WOKE teachings to other foriegn countries throughout the world. How evil this deception of actually being US AID actually is.

Couple of points.

1. I've already spoken about USAID. Not going to go any further other than to say there is literally no evidence that what you think is happening is actually happening.

2. You have no idea what Marxism is. No Republican knows what it means either. They also don't know what communism is. If I were to ask you point blank right now you would not be able to tell me. If they did, they would realize that nothing the democratic party is doing has anything to do with Marxism or Communism.

3. You have no idea what 'woke' means. If I asked you for a definition right now you wouldn't be able to tell me what it means. You also wouldn't be able to give me a valid reason as to why it is bad without admitting you're an unsavory human being.

The fact that you can sit here after being not a week removed from watching your 'daddy' intentionally tank the stock market, get his buddies to buy up and then pause tariffs to help his buddies profit and THEN STILL complain about Democrats tells me all I need to know. You are so far in a cult it's not funny.

Stop watching Alex Jones and get yourself a hooker or something.

[Buford.Justice]

The left uses our tax dollars to reward leftist rag books under the table. They don't even have to sell many books at all. They take care of each other at the people's expense.

[Tyy7777]

The left uses our tax dollars to reward leftist rag books under the table. They don't even have to sell many books at all. They take care of each other at the people's expense.

What are you talking about? I'm guessing two things.

A) The NEH and NEA funding books. Guess what? They don't fund political books. Shocker.

B) PACs buying books. As I have mentioned in this thread, this DOES happen ON BOTH SIDES and it's primary purpose is for advertisement. More so on the republican side actually from what I can find. BUT GUESS WHAT? PACs DO NOT USE TAXPAYER MONEY.

This just shows how blatantly uneducated you are. Like I said, stop watching Alex Jones and actually do some critical thinking for once.

[Morgs153]

"Harris raised significantly more money through small donors than Trump did."

Like those "individual" donors created by the money laundering operation called Act Blue. You're probably right about that one.

[Buford.Justice]

Tyy777,

Know going in I'm not a fan of Elon Musk, Tesla, SpaceX, X, or anything related --- but I gotta ask, why does Elon Musk scare the living daylights out of you, politically or otherwise?

Now, going back as far to President Truman, President Eisenhower --- and more recently, President Obama, all have had private sector influencers in advisory roll capacities during said presidential administrations. it's not like this is something new since Trump was inaugurated.

Great to see you back on here lurker. How ya been? I'm starting to check in more now that the place has recovered.