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The winning could get even much better if not for Soros elected rogue Marxist judges, messing with the swamp cleansing. TYY you need some of those illegal gang members sent to your address for karma!!If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!
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Trump literally has the Supreme Court in HIS FAVOR.Originally posted by Buford.Justice View PostThe winning could get even much better if not for Soros elected rogue Marxist judges, messing with the swamp cleansing. TYY you need some of those illegal gang members sent to your address for karma!!
It's a 6-3 split. Three Bush appointees, Three Dems and Three Trumpers.
The three Bush appointees weren't MAGA but one of them, CJ Roberts looks to be on Trump's side. Trump was caught saying to him at the State Of The Union, "I won't forget" while shaking his hand. What does that mean?
Also again. You have no idea what Marxism is.
Oh and those gang members. Yeh, most of them aren't even gang members. The White House literally photoshopped an MS13 tattoo on one of them.
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He wasn't even supposed to be deported. The administration even admitted as such. He was protected from deportation to El Salvador in 2019. The Supreme Court, which is in Trump's favor as mentioned earlier, UNANIMOUSLY ruled that he should return.Originally posted by lurker View Post
You mean like, Kilmar Abrrgo Garcia? Terrorist gang members like that?
It is yet to be proved he was an MS-13 Gang Member.
NOW PLEASE LISTEN.
If the relevant authorities can PROVE that he is a 'terrorist gang member' then he should ABSOLUTELY BE DEPORTED. In no way do I disagree with that.
He deserves due process. Everyone has a right to that.
Could you imagine if you come from a less fortunate country legally and one day the relevant authorities showed up and deported you WITHOUT due process. I bet you wouldn't like that.
Garcia's situation is obviously different but he is legally allowed to be here, for now.
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This is where you factually show your ignorance.Originally posted by Tyy7777 View PostIt is yet to be proved he was an MS-13 Gang Member.
From the Department of Homeland Security.
THE REAL STORY: Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 Gang member with a History of Violence
The mainstream media has peddled a sob story about Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The facts are he is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a MS-13 gang member, and has a history of violence.
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I'll be honest. As I look at this situation with Garcia I think he turned out to be a happy accident. His case is a bit of happenstance. Ready, fire, aim, if you will.
Was everything all lined up all beak to tail-feather at the very start? Probably not. After the fact? Yes, it sure as he!! seems that way.
Do I really think Garcia is MS13 affiliated? Yes, I do. Do I think that his woman actually did file a protection order because her own fear of him? Oh yeah. I think that this is probably the longest she's gone without a tune up at the hands of Kilmar in a long time. There's nothing stopping her from going to El Salvador to be at her man's side (ala Tammy Wynette). He absolutely is not a legal US citizen. He absolutely has been engaged in illegal activities while here in the US. The Tennessee Star has been doing some yeoman work reporting on the issue.
Van Hollen is looking like an @ss. While in his home state of Maryland he has not yet ever met or reached out to the family of Rachel Morin. Rachel was a wife and mother killed at the hands of an illegal alien from El Salvador. Rachel and her family were actual constituents of Senator Van Hollen but he has ignored them to go trip off to El Salvador to politic on behalf of illegal gang member. Think about who some of the lefties are putting on a pedestal of hero right now. 1) Luigi Mangione- a murderer who gunned down a husband and father. 2) Karmello Anthony- a murderer who took a knife to a track meet and a killed a kid over a seating dispute in a tent shelter. 3) Garcia- an illegal alien MS13 gang member. 4) The name escapes me but he's the Hamas supporter who overstayed a student visa. Keep going, you're doing just fine.
Ask yourself why. Why does this make sense? The last administration threw open the border and let in hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, illegally. Now, now it comes down to a due process case for every single one of them? Really? Why did the last admin do this? Why, when we were all told we had to be vaxxed to keep our jobs, keep our health insurance, be able to travel abroad that it was okay to throw open the border to so many who just walked into the ether without any proof of good health and being vaxxed. I'm not asking for an answer where someone says - where's the proof. Ask yourself and see if it makes sense.
Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.
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Please read what I have to say because I think my position is largely misunderstood.Originally posted by Morgs153 View PostI'll be honest. As I look at this situation with Garcia I think he turned out to be a happy accident. His case is a bit of happenstance. Ready, fire, aim, if you will.
Was everything all lined up all beak to tail-feather at the very start? Probably not. After the fact? Yes, it sure as he!! seems that way.
Do I really think Garcia is MS13 affiliated? Yes, I do. Do I think that his woman actually did file a protection order because her own fear of him? Oh yeah. I think that this is probably the longest she's gone without a tune up at the hands of Kilmar in a long time. There's nothing stopping her from going to El Salvador to be at her man's side (ala Tammy Wynette). He absolutely is not a legal US citizen. He absolutely has been engaged in illegal activities while here in the US. The Tennessee Star has been doing some yeoman work reporting on the issue.
Van Hollen is looking like an @ss. While in his home state of Maryland he has not yet ever met or reached out to the family of Rachel Morin. Rachel was a wife and mother killed at the hands of an illegal alien from El Salvador. Rachel and her family were actual constituents of Senator Van Hollen but he has ignored them to go trip off to El Salvador to politic on behalf of illegal gang member. Think about who some of the lefties are putting on a pedestal of hero right now. 1) Luigi Mangione- a murderer who gunned down a husband and father. 2) Karmello Anthony- a murderer who took a knife to a track meet and a killed a kid over a seating dispute in a tent shelter. 3) Garcia- an illegal alien MS13 gang member. 4) The name escapes me but he's the Hamas supporter who overstayed a student visa. Keep going, you're doing just fine.
Ask yourself why. Why does this make sense? The last administration threw open the border and let in hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, illegally. Now, now it comes down to a due process case for every single one of them? Really? Why did the last admin do this? Why, when we were all told we had to be vaxxed to keep our jobs, keep our health insurance, be able to travel abroad that it was okay to throw open the border to so many who just walked into the ether without any proof of good health and being vaxxed. I'm not asking for an answer where someone says - where's the proof. Ask yourself and see if it makes sense.
Before I go on, you might want to read into Brian Thompson (the guy Luigi killed) and the absolute scumbag things he did. Dude is the reason more than one people are dead. Eye for an eye.
As I said, and look, I know reading is hard for you Trumpers but just try, I am NOT supporting gang members. I AM supporting due process, as is Senator Hollen. I mean, come on, getting rid of due process opens up a very large can of worms.
Like all Trump supports you only ever care about things that directly affect you and things that you are told affects you. You can't for one second put yourselves in the shoes of someone else.
The above posted reports from the Department of Homeland Security tell us nothing. The use of a Chicago Bulls hat is the only proof that he is a gang member. Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? It also contains unproven allegations of assault. IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN HE IS A GANG MEMBER.
The reality is this. He was under a withhold of removal. HE CAN NOT BE DEPORTED TO EL SALVADOR. That is, until it is proven he has committed gang related crimes or the assault is proven.
Like I said, if he is proven to be what they say he is, his ass should be sent right the f*** back. I also contend that he probably is what you are accusing him of.
BUT, you can not remove due process here. That opens up a range of highly unsavory possibilities.
Oh, and just on immigration, the actual numbers of illegal immigration have largely stayed the same since it recovered from the 2007 peak, under Republican President Bush. Immigration for strictly Mexico continued it's decline into Biden's presidency. The whole immigration spiel gets brought up every election and it's nothing more than propaganda. Not to mention those coming here illegally are picking up the jobs American's don't even want so....
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I did read what you had to say and I'll admit I'm a bit more confounded.
It was apparently okay for Brian Thompson to lose his life at the hands of vigilante justice but you're concerned about due process. Got it.
When we give into emotions and vandalize vehicles, burn dealerships, and gun down people who we feel "have it coming" that opens up a range of highly unsavory possibilities.Political correctness,...is the inability to speak the truth about the obvious.
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I'm sorry? Luigi Mangione is undergoing that due process right now. He's been indicted. Again, Brian Thompson is not a guy you want to be cheerleading for.Originally posted by Morgs153 View PostI did read what you had to say and I'll admit I'm a bit more confounded.
It was apparently okay for Brian Thompson to lose his life at the hands of vigilante justice but you're concerned about due process. Got it.
When we give into emotions and vandalize vehicles, burn dealerships, and gun down people who we feel "have it coming" that opens up a range of highly unsavory possibilities.
The Justice system won't allow for what you say to happen. I don't think people are now cheering for that to happen. On the other hand NOBODY but that guys family is losing sleep over it.
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Here's a hypothetical for all you Trumpers:
Imagine a future left-wing president declares a national emergency on gun violence, bans AR-15s, and signs an executive order instructing the ATF to confiscate semi-automatic rifles from gun stores.
A federal court blocks it, citing the Second Amendment—but the president shrugs, calls the judges “activists,” and ignores the ruling.
Would you still be okay with that? Or would you suddenly rediscover your love for the rule of law?
This isn’t about immigration or Trump. It’s about whether the rule of law means anything to you—or if you only respect the Constitution when it serves your politics.
You don’t get to scream “tyranny!” over COVID lockdowns or gun restrictions and then celebrate when your guy blows off court orders. That’s not patriotism. That’s authoritarianism in red, white, and blue drag.
You don’t get to pick and choose when the Constitution matters.
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Tyy777 I don't mind arguing with someone with some common sense on a level playing field, but you sir are a brainwashed, duped fool leftist that isn't even concerned with the truth or even the future of our nation. Go ahead and support the globalists/communists lies and propaganda to the letter though. Twist it all to your clueless fancy. We need people that understand the realities of the Democrat parties real goals. If they take over again, no conservative will go unpunished and even you will suffer the consequenses. These people won't give you a pass for your support in the end.If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!
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Once again, you have no proof or reasonable belief as to what the Democratic party wants. You still can't tell me what communism is.Originally posted by Buford.Justice View PostTyy777 I don't mind arguing with someone with some common sense on a level playing field, but you sir are a brainwashed, duped fool leftist that isn't even concerned with the truth or even the future of our nation. Go ahead and support the globalists/communists lies and propaganda to the letter though. Twist it all to your clueless fancy. We need people that understand the realities of the Democrat parties real goals. If they take over again, no conservative will go unpunished and even you will suffer the consequenses. These people won't give you a pass for your support in the end.
The irony of the final two lines is the best part. Trump has mocked his supporters. Trump doesn't care about his supporters. Trump cares about his billionaire buddies. Please actually do some research.
One of my favorite quotes of all time is from Eric Hoffer - "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them".
I guarantee your life will improve once you stop believing everything is some kind of conspiracy. It's politics. Some good people. Some bad people. There's bad Democrats. There's bad Republicans. There's good Democrats. There's good Republicans. Always has been and always will be. You may not like some things that happen but if you ever chose to look at what happens in less fortunate countries you'd be eternally grateful for the efforts that the 'establishment' as a whole goes to, to remain transparent and as uncorrupt as possible.
Again, not saying shady stuff doesn't happen but it doesn't happen on the level you think it does. Ironically it has happened a lot lately. Just not by who you think.
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