This sounds awfully socialist!

[Tyy7777]

Those boxes that have been ticked have been ticked on the other side as well.

- Fixation on humiliation and victimhood like painting everyone into groups of oppressors and oppressed.
- Identification of enemies as a unifying cause (aka "othering"). MAGA, overuse of Nazi, anti-science, anti-vax, religious right, etc.
- Shunning of religion and religious values for the sake of godverment.
- Disdain for the rights of individuals. You don't hear conservatives saying we need a new constitution.
- You don't think Obama tried out his cult of personality? Or his inability to admit mistakes? Or the last administration for that matter?
- Rampant cronyism. C'mon man. They got in bed with Twitter, Facebook, Google and infiltrated and censored on social media platforms. It was proven in the coverup of the Hunter Biden laptop story. It was proven in how the media continued to double down on the fake Russiagate story. That wasn't facist!?
- Rampant lawfare. The process is the punishment. Abuse of impeachment process (most definitely the second one).

There are counter examples to every example. I wouldn't say that Trump controls mass media by any means. He has a favorable platform at Fox and in the talk radio and podcast realm, but the majority of mainstream media still goes against him. But he doesn't shy from it, he actually speaks to them, he holds press conferences. Contrast that with the last admin. Trump had Bill Maher to the White House for dinner. Would Biden ever have a conservative podcaster/pundit over during his tenure?

Both sides do it. Neither is marinated in virtue. When they are in power they get to pick their pals, their messages, their winners and losers.

Not really.

- If you accept reality you accept that certain groups have been oppressed over the years. Besides the point was really more about the nation being victim to the 'elites'.
- The point was really about painting one group of people as a scapegoat for the nation's issues. Painting someone as anti-vax is not that.
- Why is shunning religious values a bad thing? The whole point is that fascists DO heavily use religion. Shunning it is not fascist and shunning it is a good thing.
- I don't mean to offend but I don't think you know what a cult of personality is. Obama has admitted he got Libya wrong, he took full resposiblity for failed drone strikes and has admitted fault for poor cabinet nominations.
- One shaky example is not "rampant" cronyism. The Dems are not in bed with any platform. Did you see that dinner Trump had a night or two ago?
- So criminals can't be prosecuted?

Trump doesn't control mass media, as I pointed out, but he does get closer when he starts banning certain media outlets from press gatherings. Fox News is absolutely huge. The real point is about undermining the truth.

Both sides are not the same.

[lurker]

Both sides are not the same.

So you’re saying that Democrats/Liberals always take the high road?

[Tyy7777]

So you’re saying that Democrats/Liberals always take the high road?

Not always. The Democrats aren't perfect. To say so would be ridiculous.

But the majority of the time they are better than Republicans, specifically modern Republicans.

[lurker]

But the majority of the time they are better than Republicans, specifically modern Republicans.

That would be in the context that you’ve already laid out in the previous posts here, and in other posts that we’ve talked about Politics? Correct?

[Tyy7777]

That would be in the context that you’ve already laid out in the previous posts here, and in other posts that we’ve talked about Politics? Correct?

I find Dems do better at providing a higher quality of life for all than the modern Republican.

Now if we go back a few decades, that's where I have time for Republicans.

[lurker]

I find Dems do better at providing a higher quality of life for all than the modern Republican.

We have a huge difference in the USA Political Worldview.

[lurker]

The Dems are not in bed with any platform. .

Black Lives Matter

More gun control laws

Illegal immigration

The boondoggle of EV’s and windfarms

[lurker]

This is why Trump gains so much momentum. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_HObHUube9U

[lurker]

Then we have debacles like this that generates even more momentum for Trump.
https://youtube.com/shorts/JhyQVroFvDY?si=HEh9mSyaHS5704Qe

[Tyy7777]

Black Lives Matter

More gun control laws

Illegal immigration

The boondoggle of EV’s and windfarms

Any particular reason you decided to take my quote way out of context???

Dems do not want illegal immigrants. Need proof? https://youtu.be/T7LGoHV3aKs

[Tyy7777]

This is why Trump gains so much momentum. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_HObHUube9U

Yeh I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

[lurker]

Any particular reason you decided to take my quote way out of context???

That was meant in the context of the Dems are OK with Open Borders and Illegal Immigrants platform.

[lurker]

Yeh I'd be willing to bet that isn't true.

You are out of touch if you don't think the example I posted is where Trump gains supporters and gains so much momentum.

[lurker]

Then we have this little Gem from Chicago - https://youtube.com/shorts/4lrwl_lTz4I?si=Jjx4tiRm-0uwo_m3

[Tyy7777]

That was meant in the context of the Dems are OK with Open Borders and Illegal Immigrants platform.

Yeh but what does have to do with anything I said?

Democrats are not OK with illegal immigrants. Did you watch the video I sent? Obama literally ran on it in 2008 because Bush let it out of control. Democrats have consistently tried to reform the immigration system to deter illegals and make it easier for people to come in the right way.