Epstein………

[lurker]

When the Epstein files become public, I wonder if ss12 will post about Trump raping and molesting 14yr old girls? He’s gotta hold the narrative he was pushing. Or was it just another lie of his?

[lurker]

I don't post drive-by stuff but I will recommend a video. Look for Deep Focus with John Kiriakou, Epstein Coverup - How Deep Does it Go? with Nick Bryant. John Kiriakou is ex-CIA and went to prison for being a whistle blower on their torture program so he is not some sympathetic Trumper. Nick Bryant is an investigative journalist who has covered Epstein for over a dozen years. I think it is a pretty fair assessment of where we are with this and maybe what is to be expected.

Thanks for posting that.

[lurker]

But, the part that defies logic to me is that while Biden and his team were in control and they were laser focused on lawfare and every single tactic they could use to try and ruin Trump, and ruin his associates, and ruin any chance that he could make another successful run at the White House, that they would sit on the Epstein information that they had control of. If there was a there - there, they would have jumped on it with both feet. What, they missed it? Until now? No way. They would have used it. You know they would have used it.

In a roundabout way, I posed the same question (just not as eloquently as you) in this thread and I feel like it was dismissed.

[lurker]

The TRUTH about Trump's Epstein connection - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fybF9Kbbo_M

I’m still looking for the unicorns too!!

[Tyy7777]

I thought it was pretty funny that the Washington Post had the story of Stacey Plaskett (D-VI) who was actually texting with Epstein during a congressional hearing in 2019. Epstein was feeding her questions and coaching her up on what to ask to hopefully hurt Trump during the line of questions in the hearing.

Yeah, how bout that.

For sure, Trump will probably have his name mentioned a lot in these e-mails. Probably because at the time he was either the president or running for president. Being high profile and being in the news a lot would be reason enough to be in these e-mails. We shall see.

But, the part that defies logic to me is that while Biden and his team were in control and they were laser focused on lawfare and every single tactic they could use to try and ruin Trump, and ruin his associates, and ruin any chance that he could make another successful run at the White House, that they would sit on the Epstein information that they had control of. If there was a there - there, they would have jumped on it with both feet. What, they missed it? Until now? No way. They would have used it. You know they would have used it.

Are you trying to tell me that the big thing that could have ruined him and so many others was just kept aside for real emergency use only? Just in case he could actually beat Biden/Harris we'll take the chance to sit on this information which could totally derail his chances at being in the Oval Office again. Instead of using it when they had it in their possession and total control? That - is totally illogical.

That tells me that you've got nothing more than power players who ran in the same circles and had some associations which are now embarrassments. Past testimonies and depositions of women who were then girls who said Trump did not engage in the behaviors some of you are so sure he did. If your party and the people in charge of your party was so sure of that a few years ago, why didn't they do something about it when they absolutely could have? When it would have helped them the most and helped them retain their power.

Epstein existed through five administrations now in some sort of capacity or level of scrutiny. Five. Going back to his buddy portrayed in the painting with the blue dress. The chances for righting wrongs have been there but why things haven't been done is probably because there are a whole lot of connections which involve a whole lot of powerful people (who exist in both political orbits), other nations, and other nation's intelligence services being involved with the guy and not just singularly one person.

I've said from the beginning, release it. I want to see it too. But I would not be too surprised if somehow a court or DOJ or some entity steps in with some state secrets excuse.

Are you going to ignore the relationship Epstein and Trump had prior to being president?

Trump said today that he cut off Epstein over a decade ago...so why do the emails point towards him and Epstein being connect right up until 2019? Why is he lying?

We also know that the first Trump admin was asking Epstein about cabinet appointments.

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So why didn't Biden release them? Well there's a few reasons.

Inevitably some Democrat affiliated people will be involved. Scum exists on both sides.

The DOJ is not meant to be weapoinzed. You clearly have views on the prosecution of Trump but that's another conversation for another day.

The big one is that releasing the files is a BIG deal because you affect victims and it also opens up a can of worms in regards to people involved but not necessarily wrongdoers. I actually agree with the lone Rep who voted no. Well I agree with his published reasoning, whether that's BS is another story.

Trump made this bed. He was the one who made it apart of his campaign. Time to lie in it.

Also like I told Lurker, testimonies that X didn't happen doesn't mean much in these cases. Epstein has threatened to kill victims. You think they'd testify correctly?

Trump is a 1ucking perverted creep. You can like his politics or whatever but you cannot deny that.

[Tyy7777]

As far as redactions, don't get too hung up on every redaction being connected to DJT.

The story the Washington Post broke regarding Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett had her name totally redacted from the e-mails. WaPo was able to do some investigative work and connected the messages and time stamps and link them up to the moment that she was involved in the hearing and asking the questions Epstein was feeding her.

So I'm not going to scream they were trying to protect a Democrat because of those redactions. I'm just saying, there will be a whole lot of them.

I don't post drive-by stuff but I will recommend a video. Look for Deep Focus with John Kiriakou, Epstein Coverup - How Deep Does it Go? with Nick Bryant. John Kiriakou is ex-CIA and went to prison for being a whistle blower on their torture program so he is not some sympathetic Trumper. Nick Bryant is an investigative journalist who has covered Epstein for over a dozen years. I think it is a pretty fair assessment of where we are with this and maybe what is to be expected.

Eh, not a fan of Kiriakou so I'll pass.

All I'm saying is that there's been a long time between when this was brought up and when Trump is 'happy to do it'.

[Tyy7777]

The TRUTH about Trump's Epstein connection - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fybF9Kbbo_M

I’m still looking for the unicorns too!!

See my second last sentence in Post 95.

[lurker]

Well, where's the “dirt” on Trump in the Epstein files?

[lurker]

Well..................................

[lurker]

Eh, not a fan of Kiriakou so I'll pass.

I remember you distinctly calling me out negatively when I said basically the same thing. I think it was in one of the deleted threads.

[lurker]

Where’d the anti-Trump Epstein bobbsey twins go?

[lurker]

Where’s Ty’s “dirt” on Trump?

Where’s Schutzstaffel12, Trump raping and molesting 14yr old girls?

Their street cred on 4m just took a bigger hit on the nose.

[Tyy7777]

I remember you distinctly calling me out negatively when I said basically the same thing. I think it was in one of the deleted threads.

This is the first I've heard his name in here.

[lurker]

This is the first I've heard his name in here.

You’re not that stupid ------ so quit playing stupid.


I was referencing when you told me in a deleted thread, paraphrasing here: I should read and absorb all material from other sources, not just from the Right leaning ones. Something along those lines.


But you already knew that.


Quite hypocritical for bowing out on NOT reading what Morgs posted.


Where’s your “dirt” on Trump?

[Tyy7777]

You’re not that stupid ------ so quit playing stupid.


I was referencing when you told me in a deleted thread, paraphrasing here: I should read and absorb all material from other sources, not just from the Right leaning ones. Something along those lines.


But you already knew that.


Quite hypocritical for bowing out on NOT reading what Morgs posted.


Where’s your “dirt” on Trump?

I think my point was actually about a wider range of higher quality sources considered to be centrist.

Kiriakou is on the Russian payroll. He's a whistleblower who wants the spotlight.