Chinese immigrating to the us

[roman]

Don't really care if some Chinese are immaigrating here as long as they do it legally like your suppose to, not like some other SMUCKS. It also dosen't hurt that they maybe wealthy either at least they won't be automatically ataching themselves to our free loader system.

Hey maybe they might even be smart enough to vote, when able for somebody other than Dumb and Dumber partys.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Well, keeping "on task" I don't have a problem with LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

The problem is the ILLEGALS. Keep them out and deport the bad ones.

[15jr]

Don't really care if some Chinese are immaigrating here as long as they do it legally like your suppose to, not like some other SMUCKS. It also dosen't hurt that they maybe wealthy either at least they won't be automatically ataching themselves to our free loader system.

Hey maybe they might even be smart enough to vote, when able for somebody other than Dumb and Dumber partys.

Right on. As long as they are productive members of society its fine by me. Maybe moving some of them over here will keep more of them over there from stealing all of our patent designs and building more junk to sell at walmart.

[p-towne]

Immigrating money

Also immigrating to the US are Chinese investments in US small business--to the tune of 5 Bil. last year. Some are private investments--but some are investments from state run Co.'s(Does this pass constitutional muster?)

Interestingly enough the Chinese Investors are doing so to export back to China American product. Does this throw you a little bit.?? Buying into the American dream to export to China????



Apparently US small business has difficulty exporting to China. (No , Really??)
1% of small business's export. What do the Chinese see that American money and Co's don't see?
Quality products--Trained labor force---Productivity------------------- Food for thought isn't it----At least to the layman amongst us------

[p-towne]

Right on. As long as they are productive members of society its fine by me. Maybe moving some of them over here will keep more of them over there from stealing all of our patent designs and building more junk to sell at walmart.

True they do not recognize our patent laws. American business has no legal standing in China---Go Figure

[15jr]

True they do not recognize our patent laws. American business has no legal standing in China---Go Figure

Exactly. Too many times we have a product that gets copied by them and then sold right back to us. Nothing like rubbing your nose in it.

[ferd]

I’m not worried about Chinese businessmen investing in the U.S. That’s outside money coming in, or you can consider it U.S. debt coming back into the U.S. as investment, which are good things. If the Chinese Government is heavily involved then it’s not so good. But it sounds like Chinese businessmen who wish to do business in a free capitalist environment instead of under communist oppression. These businessmen may lose their government’s prop-up support by coming here, but they may not trust that their government will continue to protect them (in the markets and in the streets).

We don’t have to fret about learning to speak Chinese. Remember back in the 1980s when Japanese businessmen were investing / buying U.S. businesses? We thought we’d have to learn Japanese. It didn’t happen because 1) the U.S. economy is too big and has too many outside investors for any one nation to buy it all, and 2) Japan lost their advantage (cheap labor) because its people woke up and demanded to be paid better. Japan went into a cycle of recessions instead, and nobody today worries that Japan will take over the U.S.

Other countries have also taken turns: Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Taiwan. India and China are taking their own turns, and struggling with the same problem – eventually the cheap labor wises up and revolts. China’s communist oppression is the only thing allowing them to resist a labor movement so far. It’s showing signs of crumbling. Next up will probably be countries in South America and eventually Africa. Businessmen will continue to exploit cheap labor where they can find it. The main effect is that economic resources that used to be concentrated in certain countries (U.S. and Europe) are getting spread out over more of the world. So the root of our own economic recession (in the U.S.) is too much of our former wealth has left our shores. We need it to come back, and if Chinese businessmen want to bring it back then good! They will not be able to take us over.

[Headhunter]

Exactly. Too many times we have a product that gets copied by them and then sold right back to us. Nothing like rubbing your nose in it.

Yup some of the parts we make and hold the patents on are copied component by component right down to the part number... They are inferior products sold to companies in the US who sell them at rock bottom prices under thair own name. Funny thing is when they fail they get sent to us because they are exactly the same and the companies want reimbersment from us for someone elses part.

[p-towne]

I’m not worried about Chinese businessmen investing in the U.S. That’s outside money coming in, or you can consider it U.S. debt coming back into the U.S. as investment, which are good things. If the Chinese Government is heavily involved then it’s not so good. But it sounds like Chinese businessmen who wish to do business in a free capitalist environment instead of under communist oppression. These businessmen may lose their government’s prop-up support by coming here, but they may not trust that their government will continue to protect them (in the markets and in the streets).

We don’t have to fret about learning to speak Chinese. Remember back in the 1980s when Japanese businessmen were investing / buying U.S. businesses? We thought we’d have to learn Japanese. It didn’t happen because 1) the U.S. economy is too big and has too many outside investors for any one nation to buy it all, and 2) Japan lost their advantage (cheap labor) because its people woke up and demanded to be paid better. Japan went into a cycle of recessions instead, and nobody today worries that Japan will take over the U.S.

Other countries have also taken turns: Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Taiwan. India and China are taking their own turns, and struggling with the same problem – eventually the cheap labor wises up and revolts. China’s communist oppression is the only thing allowing them to resist a labor movement so far. It’s showing signs of crumbling. Next up will probably be countries in South America and eventually Africa. Businessmen will continue to exploit cheap labor where they can find it. The main effect is that economic resources that used to be concentrated in certain countries (U.S. and Europe) are getting spread out over more of the world. So the root of our own economic recession (in the U.S.) is too much of our former wealth has left our shores. We need it to come back, and if Chinese businessmen want to bring it back then good! They will not be able to take us over.

Great Post!!

[15jr]

Yup some of the parts we make and hold the patents on are copied component by component right down to the part number... They are inferior products sold to companies in the US who sell them at rock bottom prices under thair own name. Funny thing is when they fail they get sent to us because they are exactly the same and the companies want reimbersment from us for someone elses part.

I understand exactly what your are talking about. I used to work at a motorcycle shop and you would be amazed at the people who couldn't understand that just because it looked exactly the same doesn't mean it was. Pitbikes are the worst. They use a copy of the Honda 110 motor ( I know Honda is Japen just using as an example) and they are complete and total junk. Polaris is fighting this issue right now.

[balljoint]

chinas standard of living is being raised to make way for the new manufacturing kingdom: Mexico. See Also Haiti, Domincan Republic etc.

You think the US is down there cleaning house for drugs? haha fools

google that major highway running from Mexico to Regina....hmmm

And for the European type...Africa. the next 3rd world country set to be a manufacturing hub. Just have to finish killing off the locals

[HCR#16]

they took our jobbbbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Headhunter]

they took our jobbbbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They did not take them big money gave them our jobs.

[p-towne]

As of last week the world bank has entered talks with China to move low end manufacturing jobs to Africa---- Infra structure in Africa is the stumbling block..
China is trying to move away from Manufacturing because of a older work force.
(30 years of One Child).
Banking-Electronics- land acquisition-oil-Etc. is where they want to be.

The U.S. Govt. for years has subsidized cotton and other agriculture in Africa.
I believe it is Telkom that has a large presence in Africa.

Locally a big push for free trade with Columbia and other Latin American Co.s because of Catterpillar.
We should not take lightly that American money in part has allowed the Chinese to modernize their war machine.

Can't speak of the transportation corridors as it will quickly be deleted.

[15jr]

As of last week the world bank has entered talks with China to move low end manufacturing jobs to Africa---- Infra structure in Africa is the stumbling block..
China is trying to move away from Manufacturing because of a older work force.
(30 years of One Child).
Banking-Electronics- land acquisition-oil-Etc. is where they want to be.

The U.S. Govt. for years has subsidized cotton and other agriculture in Africa.
I believe it is Telkom that has a large presence in Africa.

Locally a big push for free trade with Columbia and other Latin American Co.s because of Catterpillar.
We should not take lightly that American money in part has allowed the Chinese to modernize their war machine.

Can't speak of the transportation corridors as it will quickly be deleted.

There is absolutley no doubt that American money has helped pay for China's military. They own a good portion of the debt of America. I am also certain they have taken military plans from the U.S in order to develop that military. Only good news is if they build war ships like they do darn near anything else in China, the ships couldn't get out of the dock.