Nailed it!!!

[Clayton_Wetter]

No matter what the issue is, compromising with the wrong still makes it wrong.

Wake up and go to bed!!!

[Clayton_Wetter]

[QUOTE=kidrock;1469986]

Oh yes I know Glenn is the guy go Glenn go. Listen you keep listening to Glenn really I don't care. I guess I just can't handle is lies. It would not matter what names I came up with because u would just discredit them like always like I said I have been down that road

Still no material to back up your OPINION? Okay, now about this middle. How do you compromise on abortion? Just abort half of a baby? How do you compromise on taxing people? Do 47% of them pay no taxes and the rich pay what progressives say is their fair share? What is their fair share? Do you have a percentage? No because none of your heros can say what the fair share is. They just somehow know that they are not paying their fair share. Pretty convenient. Class warfare. How do you compromise on class warfare? You don't. Either the nation is united or it is not. And Obama is determined that it is not, so that he can have support from them. How do you compromise on illegal aliens? Obama doesn't, he takes the side of the illegals and sues the states!

How many more examples can we come up with here? Maybe 15 trillion?

[wallcrusher]

"wake up and go to bed"...........Can I use that?

[Clayton_Wetter]

"wake up and go to bed"...........Can I use that?

Why soitny!!! nyuk nyuk!!!

[t.nie]

The point with Glenn Beck is that Glenn has had on his staff for several years now basically his own intelligence service that watches all the news that is going on around the world for one purpose which most other people and organizations don't. He has them looking to see what connects to other situations happening around the world and he see what fits together. That is how he is so correct in his predictions. He is not a prophet. He is only being smart enough to use what is at his disposal to find out what is happening that might eventually influence the world in a negative way.

The problem with the left is that when you can not disprove something that speaks badly of your point of view the only thing that is left for an emotion based ideology is to demonize the enemy. As conservatives we generally try to find the truth and the facts and base our thoughts and ideology on facts and reality and the reality of this is very hurtful and harmful to any liberal ideology. Why, because they do not want to admit that theirs is an ideology based on emotion rather than common sense. That is not to say that we are always right or that common sense is always well founded. It is only to say that at least we try to take the right path to a good and common solution. Glenn Beck from what I have seen has always been very much driven to make sure that what he does and says is backed up with substantial proof that makes it very difficult to argue or disagree with.

Graham Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) wrote a book a number of years ago, took the world by storm (or parts of it, anyway) called Ancient Aliens. In it, he mapped the Pyramids on the Giza Plateau and made these connections between the positions of the pyramids and the 3 stars in the middle of Orion, called Orion's belt. His theory was that Ancient Aliens built the Pyramids, and that is why they lined up with the stars. He went through a lot of convoluted gyrations, citing the procession of the equinoxes (stars do not stay in the same place over time in our sky, they move as the centuries pass) and managed to created a mathematical formula that put the pyramids in a certain position to line up with the Belt when they were built.

Fascinating stuff. He also covered Mayan civilizations, the Incas, etc, and tied in their monuments to these theories as well. More "fascinating stuff."

And many people became believers in Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)'s theories. So much so, he sold a million books or whatever, made a ton of dough, got on a bunch of talk shows, and of course, cashed in on is audience's loyalty with... you guessed it, another book.

And then some other smart fellers at a university somewhere took all the same "theoretical" manipulations Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) used and spread it over New York City. Found that you could apply the same alignments and whatnot Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) used to pinpoint specific landmarks around NYC and line em up with the same stars. Use other landmarks for N, S, E W and hey presto, the landmarks in NYC were designed and built by ALIENS from ORION... lol

So then you say "well, Glenn Beck has people watching everything that's going on in the world, and they are connecting events in ways that make sense and foreshadow things to come and show us what's REALLY going on behind the scenes that no one knows about" and I say really? I can take my local newspaper and make up some wild conspiracies out of a car wreck, meth bust, local election and the obituaries.

Does that mean there is a conspiracy in my little town? That some dark sinister force is at work? Really? Or does it just make me a great creative thinker, able to take mundane, unrelated events and form some interconnected, common theme among them to explain how they are connected when in fact, they are nothing more than random events that just happen?

Beck is to me, just like Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word). He is selling snake oil. He is just making it all up as he goes along. And he's doing a great job, for a former drunk with no education.

[t.nie]

[QUOTE=Clayton_Wetter;1470029]

Still no material to back up your OPINION? Okay, now about this middle. How do you compromise on abortion? Just abort half of a baby? How do you compromise on taxing people? Do 47% of them pay no taxes and the rich pay what progressives say is their fair share? What is their fair share? Do you have a percentage? No because none of your heros can say what the fair share is. They just somehow know that they are not paying their fair share. Pretty convenient. Class warfare. How do you compromise on class warfare? You don't. Either the nation is united or it is not. And Obama is determined that it is not, so that he can have support from them. How do you compromise on illegal aliens? Obama doesn't, he takes the side of the illegals and sues the states!

How many more examples can we come up with here? Maybe 15 trillion?

Why do you think your opinion is more valuable or correct than anyone else's? You sit there and proclaim it's wrong for other people to say what the "fair share" of taxes the wealthy should pay are, but seem to think that your opinion of that "fair share" is the only fair "fair share".

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who speaks their perspective as the absolute, while telling other people they should not speak as though their perspective is the absolute.

It's like the whole debate around absolute truth. If there is no absolute truth, then even the statement there is no absolute truth can be false, meaning there is absolute truth, but that contradicts the premise that there is no absolute truth.

Absolutely. Lol.

[wallcrusher]

[QUOTE=t.nie;1470366]

Why do you think your opinion is more valuable or correct than anyone else's? You sit there and proclaim it's wrong for other people to say what the "fair share" of taxes the wealthy should pay are, but seem to think that your opinion of that "fair share" is the only fair "fair share".

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who speaks their perspective as the absolute, while telling other people they should not speak as though their perspective is the absolute.

It's like the whole debate around absolute truth. If there is no absolute truth, then even the statement there is no absolute truth can be false, meaning there is absolute truth, but that contradicts the premise that there is no absolute truth.

Absolutely. Lol.

Because he is a better man than you dummy......jeeesh.....get a clue buckethead!

[Clayton_Wetter]

[QUOTE=wallcrusher;1470371]

Because he is a better man than you dummy......jeeesh.....get a clue buckethead!

When your in that deep with that warped liberal philosophy you wouldn't know a clue from a lie. Sad but, they made their bed!!

[kidrock]

[QUOTE=t.nie;1470366]

Why do you think your opinion is more valuable or correct than anyone else's? You sit there and proclaim it's wrong for other people to say what the "fair share" of taxes the wealthy should pay are, but seem to think that your opinion of that "fair share" is the only fair "fair share".

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who speaks their perspective as the absolute, while telling other people they should not speak as though their perspective is the absolute.

It's like the whole debate around absolute truth. If there is no absolute truth, then even the statement there is no absolute truth can be false, meaning there is absolute truth, but that contradicts the premise that there is no absolute truth.

Absolutely. Lol.

I absolutely agree lol

[bostinks]

[QUOTE=t.nie;1470366]

Why do you think your opinion is more valuable or correct than anyone else's? You sit there and proclaim it's wrong for other people to say what the "fair share" of taxes the wealthy should pay are, but seem to think that your opinion of that "fair share" is the only fair "fair share".

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who speaks their perspective as the absolute, while telling other people they should not speak as though their perspective is the absolute.

It's like the whole debate around absolute truth. If there is no absolute truth, then even the statement there is no absolute truth can be false, meaning there is absolute truth, but that contradicts the premise that there is no absolute truth.

Absolutely. Lol.

3 paragraphs that said nothing. answered none of the questions nor offer a differing opinion on any of the questions.

[bostinks]

[QUOTE=kidrock;1470421]

I absolutely agree lol

What do you agree with? He writes nothing but drivel.

[t.nie]

ok, bostinks, show me Clayton's "opinion" and "solutions" in his post. What, you can't? Really? Then you are correct, sir, and you get the prize, because Clayton, like most of you right wingers on here, sit there and post glib little one liners and smartassed comments but always accuse others of offering nothing.

You people are the ones who lack the ability to think beyond bumper stickers. The responses I got to the philosophical statements I made about absolute truth versus relative truth were EXACTLY the responses I expected, because I already KNOW you don't think any deeper than the latest redneck, right wing conservative bumper sticker.

Keep posting. You're winning... lol

[LITE-INN]

Graham Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) wrote a book a number of years ago, took the world by storm (or parts of it, anyway) called Ancient Aliens. In it, he mapped the Pyramids on the Giza Plateau and made these connections between the positions of the pyramids and the 3 stars in the middle of Orion, called Orion's belt. His theory was that Ancient Aliens built the Pyramids, and that is why they lined up with the stars. He went through a lot of convoluted gyrations, citing the procession of the equinoxes (stars do not stay in the same place over time in our sky, they move as the centuries pass) and managed to created a mathematical formula that put the pyramids in a certain position to line up with the Belt when they were built.

Fascinating stuff. He also covered Mayan civilizations, the Incas, etc, and tied in their monuments to these theories as well. More "fascinating stuff."

And many people became believers in Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)'s theories. So much so, he sold a million books or whatever, made a ton of dough, got on a bunch of talk shows, and of course, cashed in on is audience's loyalty with... you guessed it, another book.

And then some other smart fellers at a university somewhere took all the same "theoretical" manipulations Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) used and spread it over New York City. Found that you could apply the same alignments and whatnot Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) used to pinpoint specific landmarks around NYC and line em up with the same stars. Use other landmarks for N, S, E W and hey presto, the landmarks in NYC were designed and built by ALIENS from ORION... lol

So then you say "well, Glenn Beck has people watching everything that's going on in the world, and they are connecting events in ways that make sense and foreshadow things to come and show us what's REALLY going on behind the scenes that no one knows about" and I say really? I can take my local newspaper and make up some wild conspiracies out of a car wreck, meth bust, local election and the obituaries.

Does that mean there is a conspiracy in my little town? That some dark sinister force is at work? Really? Or does it just make me a great creative thinker, able to take mundane, unrelated events and form some interconnected, common theme among them to explain how they are connected when in fact, they are nothing more than random events that just happen?

Beck is to me, just like Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word). He is selling snake oil. He is just making it all up as he goes along. And he's doing a great job, for a former drunk with no education.

I guess what he says about the consitution is snake oil also lmao

[LITE-INN]

ok, bostinks, show me Clayton's "opinion" and "solutions" in his post. What, you can't? Really? Then you are correct, sir, and you get the prize, because Clayton, like most of you right wingers on here, sit there and post glib little one liners and smartassed comments but always accuse others of offering nothing.

You people are the ones who lack the ability to think beyond bumper stickers. The responses I got to the philosophical statements I made about absolute truth versus relative truth were EXACTLY the responses I expected, because I already KNOW you don't think any deeper than the latest redneck, right wing conservative bumper sticker.

Keep posting. You're winning... lol

what solutions are you showing

[MotorMouth]

Graham Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) wrote a book a number of years ago, took the world by storm (or parts of it, anyway) called Ancient Aliens. In it, he mapped the Pyramids on the Giza Plateau and made these connections between the positions of the pyramids and the 3 stars in the middle of Orion, called Orion's belt. His theory was that Ancient Aliens built the Pyramids, and that is why they lined up with the stars. He went through a lot of convoluted gyrations, citing the procession of the equinoxes (stars do not stay in the same place over time in our sky, they move as the centuries pass) and managed to created a mathematical formula that put the pyramids in a certain position to line up with the Belt when they were built.

Fascinating stuff. He also covered Mayan civilizations, the Incas, etc, and tied in their monuments to these theories as well. More "fascinating stuff."

And many people became believers in Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)'s theories. So much so, he sold a million books or whatever, made a ton of dough, got on a bunch of talk shows, and of course, cashed in on is audience's loyalty with... you guessed it, another book.

And then some other smart fellers at a university somewhere took all the same "theoretical" manipulations Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) used and spread it over New York City. Found that you could apply the same alignments and whatnot Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) used to pinpoint specific landmarks around NYC and line em up with the same stars. Use other landmarks for N, S, E W and hey presto, the landmarks in NYC were designed and built by ALIENS from ORION... lol

So then you say "well, Glenn Beck has people watching everything that's going on in the world, and they are connecting events in ways that make sense and foreshadow things to come and show us what's REALLY going on behind the scenes that no one knows about" and I say really? I can take my local newspaper and make up some wild conspiracies out of a car wreck, meth bust, local election and the obituaries.

Does that mean there is a conspiracy in my little town? That some dark sinister force is at work? Really? Or does it just make me a great creative thinker, able to take mundane, unrelated events and form some interconnected, common theme among them to explain how they are connected when in fact, they are nothing more than random events that just happen?

Beck is to me, just like Han(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word). He is selling snake oil. He is just making it all up as he goes along. And he's doing a great job, for a former drunk with no education.

Yawn. Yer putting me to sleep.