So,what do ya make of this?

[15D]

I think he made the mistake of claiming that he was a foreigner to either gain admittance to college or to relieve additional scholarships, but it is entirely speculation on my part. I have no proof.

[STRNGRTHANDIRT]

Is that why his passport records are sealed also?

[15D]

As a kid he traveled to countries that were not sanctioned by the State Department. Probably a crime or it might rise to the level of having his citizenship nullified if he were an adult at the time. But he was a kid, he shouldn't be punished by the stupid decisions of his mother and father.

[t.nie]

If Obama really is the product of some grand conspiracy, whomever thought it up has failed miserably.

A President is only the head of one branch of government. It still takes the Congress and Judicial branches to get anyting implemented. So gaining control of the Presidency is only as effective as long as you can get control of the other two branches. That clearly hasn't happened.

Basically, if you want to stage an internal, covert coup of the American government, you have to gain control of all three branches. And judging by how little Obama has been able to accomplish, and how every single thing he attempts gets shot down by the House, it makes anyone who purports this big conspiracy theory to "take over" the nation looking pretty stupid.

Face it. If this is what some people say it is, it's a pretty pathetic failure.

[t.nie]

Is that why his passport records are sealed also?

Yours are sealed too. Got something you want to share with us about your past, where you've been, who you know?

[t.nie]

Why O Why would this happen?! I mean they made up "stories" about G W Bush's military "inactivatives" and, people (Dan Rather) lost their jobs for "inaccuracies"...yet, WE as a people, have no idea (unless you read his written word) what the 44th President of the United States of America's history is all about...

If you don't know anything about the highest profile person in America, and you think the only historical record of him is his own words, then you aren't looking very hard.

[LITE-INN]

mues

yep your right he's a crook a liar a communist has no business being prez but he makes a great comedian

[LITE-INN]

Yours are sealed too. Got something you want to share with us about your past, where you've been, who you know?

he's not a leader either

[15D]

If Obama really is the product of some grand conspiracy, whomever thought it up has failed miserably.

A President is only the head of one branch of government. It still takes the Congress and Judicial branches to get anyting implemented. So gaining control of the Presidency is only as effective as long as you can get control of the other two branches. That clearly hasn't happened.

Basically, if you want to stage an internal, covert coup of the American government, you have to gain control of all three branches. And judging by how little Obama has been able to accomplish, and how every single thing he attempts gets shot down by the House, it makes anyone who purports this big conspiracy theory to "take over" the nation looking pretty stupid.

Face it. If this is what some people say it is, it's a pretty pathetic failure.

I'm going with Charles Krauthammer's take on such things; it goes like this:

"When it comes to government, if the choice is between conspiracy and incompetence, go with incompetence."

I do not believe Obama is a "Manchurian Candidate." I also do not believe he was fully vetted as a candidate. If he would have been given the same scrutiny that Sarah Palin received, most of these issues would have been resolved long ago. With the utterly inept McCain Candidacy it would have taken a lot of skeletons in his closet to be exposed for Obama to have lost.

[ModJr9]

I have chosen to let you guys debate this thread, as long as you keep it civil i will let it remain. Do not revert to the fussing and name calling or it will be deleted.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Thank you!

[Clayton_Wetter]

If Obama really is the product of some grand conspiracy, whomever thought it up has failed miserably.

A President is only the head of one branch of government. It still takes the Congress and Judicial branches to get anyting implemented. So gaining control of the Presidency is only as effective as long as you can get control of the other two branches. That clearly hasn't happened.

Basically, if you want to stage an internal, covert coup of the American government, you have to gain control of all three branches. And judging by how little Obama has been able to accomplish, and how every single thing he attempts gets shot down by the House, it makes anyone who purports this big conspiracy theory to "take over" the nation looking pretty stupid.

Face it. If this is what some people say it is, it's a pretty pathetic failure.

Everything congress tries to do is getting shot down by Harry Reid. That Dem. Senate majority leader is stopping every bill that they propose. Obummer had all three branches and did force ObamaCare on the nation. He has also got a regulatory Craz who loves to attack energy and keep the nation dependant on the middle east. The man is anti-American and more people are realizing it. Not enough people have realized it because the Democratic party and the news media have worked hand in hand to edit news, supress news they don't deem fit for the public. Their party has created as many diversions as possible to keep this guy propped up long enough for re-election with a huge dose of propaganda through television and the internet.

The Democratic party caters to every faction that they can to try and gain enough votes for his realection and the media almost never does anything but stand up for him, even with all of the atrocities that Obama and his party push to attain.

They have to pose as something that the people want, if they come out and told them what they really wanted to do to this country they would all lose in November.

That is one of the reasons Harry Reid will not let any bills pass is that he wants to protect the Democratic Senate from having their votes in bill/policies from becoming public record and knowledge. Any senator who would vote to keep ObamaCare would by in great peril of losing in the November elections.

Obama does not need all three branches as he has obviously neutralized Congress. With the help of his Czars that if you check their backgrounds. Socialists and Communist leaning Czars are silently destroying the Constitution. More and more executive orders by Obama, and nobody standing in force to contest it. You know where a lot of things would go if it came down to Supreme Court decisions. Their hand has also been exposed. Department of Justice, exposed also.

[mudslinger47]

It fairly obvious that obummer is goin down in flames with the new polling coming out today from Gallop/USA About the only thing obummer has going for him is likeability, not favor ability, like ability. On every other front he gets his hat handed to him. Including in donations, over two hundred mil to Romney Pacs (228 I think) to around 88 mil for obummer. Not a good sign. As well as all the money obummer has spent this month trying to hang Romney with Bain Capital, ain't worked, with a margin of over two to one the country thinks Romney would be a better money manager (for the country) then obummer. I believe it was 28 or thirty million spent on the anti Romney/Bain commercials, to no avail. Some Democrat leaders are concerned that obummer is spending to much money on early advertising, oddly enough they never worry about over spending our tax dollars, only their money. Obummer is in a tight tight spot and very soon, the media and the white house are going to see how bad it really is. A certain pundant has been saying for weeks that this would be a landslide against obummer, I'm starting to believe him.

Duane

[anthonycacace]

you mean the House of Reps that was majority Dem until 2010? and the Senate that is still majority Dem? the same Senate that won't even bring bills to the floor for a vote that the newly elected (2010) Repub House passes? is this the Congress you speak of?

I love this line of thinking. It shows a lack of understanding about how Congress, and in particular how the Senate, works. While it is true, the Dems had a 'majority' in Congress until after the 2010 election, a party really must have 60 votes in the Senate to pass any legislation, as has been shown many times recently. The Dems only held this advantage in the Senate when two Independents would vote with them (Lieberman and Sanders) and after Spector changed parties in April 2009. Also, Robert Byrd died in June 2010 causing his seat to be vacant until after the November special election, causing another hurdle to attaining 60 votes. So, while technically the statement on Dem majority is true, it is quite misleading IMO.

Tables below were sourced at: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/his...s/partydiv.htm

Party Division in the Senate, 1789-Present

Note: Statistics listed below reflect party division immediately following the election, unless otherwise noted. The actual number of senators representing a particular party often changes during a congress, due to the death or resignation of a senator, or as a consequence of a member changing parties.
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109th Congress (2005-2007)

Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)

Other Parties: Independent (1 seat)

Total Seats: 100

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110th Congress (2007-2009)

Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1Independent; 1 Independent Democrat

Total Seats: 100

Note:Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected as an Independent.

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111th Congress (2009-2011)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat
Total Seats: 100
Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.

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112th Congress (2011-2013)
Majority Party: Democrat (51 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat
Total Seats: 100

One can find the House membership here: http://artandhistory.house.gov/house_history/index.aspx

[mudslinger47]

Thats all well and good Tony, but the fact remains that Harry Reid isn't a speaker, he's a Dam.

Duane