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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #16
    Are you sh!tin' me? If $3.40 a gallon isn't high and cause for concern then I want to know at what price we all need to begin to be concerned.

    Although it's true hussein is not on record saying he would enjoy seeing gasoline prices to go much higher his actions are such that would indicate he isn't at all concerned if they do.

    That having been said, hussein's energy secretary IS on record saying he would like to see gasoline in the United States at European levels.

    Secretary Chu's statement in 2008: "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe". European gasoline prices are $9.00 to $10.00 a gallon.

    Since the energy secretary is a integral part of the administration it's probably safe to believe hussein and his energy secretary are fairly close in their feeling towards gasoline prices.

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    • CIRF
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 8122

      #17
      Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
      I doubt Keystone would have had any affect on fuel prices with this outfit in the white house, but it certainly would have created a bucket load of jobs, both on site and down stream. Your never going to get the "special" blends gotten rid of and if the gubmint wanted to lower the price they could cut the taxes out of them.
      I'm not so naive as to believe those in charge will allow the various formulations to be lifted, although it could be done if public pressure became great enough. Just saying it would lower the price about a $1 in one fell swoop. I could live with $2.40 a gallon gasoline.

      Federally mandated gasoline tax is 18.4 cents a gallon. The individual states is where the serious tax money comes into play depending on where you live. Alaska is the lowest at 26.4 cents with Wyoming at 32.4 cents. The states with the highest gasoline taxes won't surprise anyone. They are the bluest and most urban and run by the most liberal politicians of all with New York at 69.6, California at 69 cents and we lucky folks in The Land O' Lincoln and crooked politicians pay 62.8 cents a gallon.

      In some states posting total taxes at the pump is prohibited by law. If there was a read out on every gasoline pump in America that posted in plain view the total taxes paid for each and every fuel sale I'm thinkin' there would be a lot more outrage. Much like if everyone paid their income taxes, social security and medicare taxes in one lump sum. There'd be a lotta' p!ssed off people out there.

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      • CIRF
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 8122

        #18
        Straw man? Not sure what that means or who you're referring to.

        Never open up the war reserves. It would have little impact on gasoline prices.

        Sky high fuel prices, such as we've had over most of the last 4 years are a significant drag on the economy that this country cannot afford.

        Open up oil exploration in any way that is feasible and offer incentives for the private sector to further technology in reference to future alternatives. Take full advantage of fracking and any other technology that will produce additional domestic oil production. Build the pipelines and anything else that is needed to lower fuel prices. This will create jobs and that is more important even than lowering fuel prices.

        Attempt to curb the over exportation of gasoline and diesel fuel.

        If the OPEC's can clearly see the United States, as the largest consumers of oil in the world, are seriously attempting to fully exploit our own domestic supplies they will drop crude prices to much more manageable levels.
        Last edited by CIRF; 02-05-2013, 12:14 PM.

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        • LITE-INN
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 12473

          #19
          Originally posted by Busheetreats
          So he said that he wants fuel to be high? If that is the case, then why is fuel still in the $3.40 range in most places? You're making what he said out to be what you want to hear. Clearly he never stated he wanted to see high fuel prices, but if that was the case, he would prefer the increase to be gradual. Remember, you jumped all over him when fuel went up last year, and chastised him and said record high gas prices. History shows that fuel was higher at one point during W's term.
          3.40 a gallon its called february gesh you are dumb

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          • LITE-INN
            Banned
            • Feb 2008
            • 12473

            #20
            You wonder why?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...rice-myths.htm
            Last edited by LITE-INN; 02-05-2013, 05:10 PM.

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            • LITE-INN
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
              • 12473

              #21
              Originally posted by busheetreats
              fracking, that's a winning plan. More drilling? That's helped a lot. Curb the over exportation of fuel, yeah these guys aren't worried about making profits.
              fracking for natural gas certainly a winner nat gas is lower then ever

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #22
                The federal government makes much more $ per gallon than the oil companies!

                Yet another FACT from "The Weapon of Mass Instruction"!!!

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                • Clayton_Wetter
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 16671

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                  Before he was elected the first time. Do I have to do your homework for you again? Don't you have google? Its really very simple. If you don't understand how to use it, let me know, I'll give you the instructions and I'll type really really slow so you can understand them.
                  The only info he will look at on Google are distortion and propaganda sites!!! That's why he doesn't know anything but fairy tales and lies!!

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Busheetreats
                    As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?Obama: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn’t had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we’ve been consuming energy as if it’s infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So…Harwood: So could these high prices help us?Obama: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.Where does he state he wants to see high gas prices?
                    And of course you believe what "THEY" tell you. When are you going to quit falling for these falsities?? After it's too late for all of us? Heck you would still blame it on Bush!

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #25
                      The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon (cpg) and 24.4 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel fuel. On average, as of April 2012, state and local taxes add 31.1 cents to gasoline and 30.2 cents to diesel for a total US average fuel tax of 49.5 cents (cpg) per gallon for gas and 54.6 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel.

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                      • Clayton_Wetter
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 16671

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Busheetreats
                        His exact quote is distortion? Come on Clayton, you're the "Weapon of Mass Retardation"
                        Yes his exact quote is distortion! With a side order of lies!

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Busheetreats
                          So he said that he wants fuel to be high? If that is the case, then why is fuel still in the $3.40 range in most places? You're making what he said out to be what you want to hear. Clearly he never stated he wanted to see high fuel prices, but if that was the case, he would prefer the increase to be gradual. Remember, you jumped all over him when fuel went up last year, and chastised him and said record high gas prices. History shows that fuel was higher at one point during W's term.
                          You doofus, increased domestic drilling has kept the price down and made OPEC lower their price also. And this has happened in spite of Obummer and his EPA goons making up lies about fracking to try and stop it from happening. If his little plans had stopped increased oil and gas drilling he would indeed have the price where he wants. You have too much to learn and a deaf ear to do it with!

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                          • Clayton_Wetter
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 16671

                            #28
                            According to Barack Obama, high gas prices don’t really constitute a problem for Americans. He stated yesterday that the reason for our anger is the rapid increase in prices, not the prices themselves. Obama claimed that Americans would have accepted a “gradual adjustment” to the current cost.

                            He thinks we would have accepted "gradual adjustments" instead of just saying increased prices. See how he always plays this word game????

                            But to guys like Bushie, they eat this stuff up and come back for seconds!

                            Maybe in Realville "gradual adjustments" could actually mean price decreases, but Obummer is not in Realville!

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                            • kidrock
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 16407

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                              According to Barack Obama, high gas prices don’t really constitute a problem for Americans. He stated yesterday that the reason for our anger is the rapid increase in prices, not the prices themselves. Obama claimed that Americans would have accepted a “gradual adjustment” to the current cost.

                              He thinks we would have accepted "gradual adjustments" instead of just saying increased prices. See how he always plays this word game????

                              But to guys like Bushie, they eat this stuff up and come back for seconds!

                              Maybe in Realville "gradual adjustments" could actually mean price decreases, but Obummer is not in Realville!
                              Well sorry but, Obama is wrong high gas prices would not mean nothing if the wages for employee's would rise as well but, the fact of the matter they haven't so, it is a big deal whether they rise slow of fast.

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                              • LITE-INN
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 12473

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Busheetreats
                                I believe if you read the entire quote, he clearly states he did not believe sudden rises in fuel prices were good for the economy, that if prices MUST rise, he would rather have a gradual increase. You really are about as shallow as it comes thinking that the President controls fuel prices, or anything tied to them. We use way too much oil to go on our own, which would be the ONLY way a President could control fuel prices. Just like when ole Bush was in office and fuel was $2.50, everyone said ole Bush was helping out, but when it spiked at over $4.25 in most areas they didn't say squat.
                                so tellus almighty one why does obummer cancels leases on oil exploration now go rifge a a slow train to china

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