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  • slick01
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3599

    #196
    Here we go again....you never give it a moments rest do you? Do you not care about the good some of us have received because of our union? By the way, I am NOT a democrat.
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    • LITE-INN
      Banned
      • Feb 2008
      • 12473

      #197
      Originally posted by slick01 View Post
      Here we go again....you never give it a moments rest do you? Do you not care about the good some of us have received because of our union? By the way, I am NOT a democrat.
      but he's showing the bad part of unions

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      • Bubstr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3734

        #198
        There are good and bad unions. There are good and bad employers. The bottom line is the union is the only friend a working man has, that has any effect on government. Name another special interest group that even remotely aligns with your interests. Possibly the NRA for some, but that does not effect your wages.

        In today's world government is bought and sold. The only person with out buying power is the unorganized labor. The Doctors Insurance, stock market, Bankers, Lawyers and Defense, just to name a few are all organized and have clout in Washington. Just who do you have?

        You could say you have your vote. Most don't use their vote and anti labor groups pay for advertisement to convince you that all unions are thugs. It's kind of like when Bobby Knight was coach at Indiana. He was an A$$, but he was their A$$.

        Some say the Union out lived it's usefulness. We have labor laws that they gave us. Do you think for one minute, we will continue to enjoy these labor laws, with out some group to fight to protect them?

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        • LITE-INN
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 12473

          #199
          why does the govt have unions and why does some of these union thugs try to force companies to join there union

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          • Bubstr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 3734

            #200
            Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
            why does the govt have unions and why does some of these union thugs try to force companies to join there union
            If your working for a crook, and we all know there is nothing more crooked than the government, you may need a little bargaining power.

            Unions always want all the labor to belong to the union. It increases their effectiveness. If they excluded someone, it would raise a red flag. If you go to work in a union shop and don't join, it's a lot like the cousin that comes to a family pot luck and never brings anything. Looking for a free ride.

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            • Clayton_Wetter
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 16671

              #201
              Originally posted by slick01 View Post
              Here we go again....you never give it a moments rest do you? Do you not care about the good some of us have received because of our union? By the way, I am NOT a democrat.
              Okay Slick, I am officially givng SOME unions due credit for the good work they are hopefully doing, BUTT! The large Unions are basically rotten to the core. Sorry for being totally critical when I should only be 98% critical!!!

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #202
                Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                There are good and bad unions. There are good and bad employers. The bottom line is the union is the only friend a working man has, that has any effect on government. Name another special interest group that even remotely aligns with your interests. Possibly the NRA for some, but that does not effect your wages.

                In today's world government is bought and sold. The only person with out buying power is the unorganized labor. The Doctors Insurance, stock market, Bankers, Lawyers and Defense, just to name a few are all organized and have clout in Washington. Just who do you have?

                You could say you have your vote. Most don't use their vote and anti labor groups pay for advertisement to convince you that all unions are thugs. It's kind of like when Bobby Knight was coach at Indiana. He was an A$$, but he was their A$$.

                Some say the Union out lived it's usefulness. We have labor laws that they gave us. Do you think for one minute, we will continue to enjoy these labor laws, with out some group to fight to protect them?
                Leave work issues to the citizens themselves instead of being coopted by King Richard Trumpka and goosesteppers. lol
                Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 06-23-2013, 06:54 PM.

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                • Clayton_Wetter
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 16671

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                  If your working for a crook, and we all know there is nothing more crooked than the government, you may need a little bargaining power.

                  Unions always want all the labor to belong to the union. It increases their effectiveness. If they excluded someone, it would raise a red flag. If you go to work in a union shop and don't join, it's a lot like the cousin that comes to a family pot luck and never brings anything. Looking for a free ride.
                  But the Unions are living in the White House with their Furor! Trumpka brags about all of his visits.
                  Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 06-23-2013, 03:47 PM.

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                  • Bubstr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3734

                    #204
                    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                    Leave work issues to the citizens themsleves instead of being coopted by King Richard Trumpka and goosesteppers. lol
                    That sounds a lot like the battle cry of the anti-union interest groups. Divide and conquer. It's fine for Wall Street and even Small business groups to consolidate for lobbying and candidate support, but not for the working man. Organized employers is good. Organized Labor is bad. Do realize how silly that sounds? Do you realize how silly that is?

                    The thing is, it's hard for a man to vote against his own wallet, and that is what you are preaching. Employers don't do it, yet you think labor should.

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                    • LITE-INN
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 12473

                      #205
                      Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                      That sounds a lot like the battle cry of the anti-union interest groups. Divide and conquer. It's fine for Wall Street and even Small business groups to consolidate for lobbying and candidate support, but not for the working man. Organized employers is good. Organized Labor is bad. Do realize how silly that sounds? Do you realize how silly that is?

                      The thing is, it's hard for a man to vote against his own wallet, and that is what you are preaching. Employers don't do it, yet you think labor should.
                      hate to tell you trumpka is not on your side
                      Last edited by LITE-INN; 06-23-2013, 05:58 PM.

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                      • LITE-INN
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 12473

                        #206

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #207
                          Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                          That sounds a lot like the battle cry of the anti-union interest groups. Divide and conquer. It's fine for Wall Street and even Small business groups to consolidate for lobbying and candidate support, but not for the working man. Organized employers is good. Organized Labor is bad. Do realize how silly that sounds? Do you realize how silly that is?

                          The thing is, it's hard for a man to vote against his own wallet, and that is what you are preaching. Employers don't do it, yet you think labor should.
                          Look, I don't have all the answers, but socialist unions in bed with a Progressives government and President stinks to high heaven, and that is the truth!! Plus large unions want as many immigrants as they can get to refortify unions and lower wages.

                          You want unions, fine, go grab some brass knuckles and take your cause to the streets. lol

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                          • Bubstr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3734

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                            Look, I don't have all the answers, but socialist unions in bed with a Progressives government and President stinks to high heaven, and that is the truth!! Plus large unions want as many immigrants as they can get to refortify unions and lower wages.

                            You want unions, fine, go grab some brass knuckles and take your cause to the streets. lol
                            Wall Street and big business in bed with government is no better. It is not the unions that will bring in the new immigration bill. It does not benefit the unions to lower their memberships wages. This amnesty bill will be bi partisan if it gets passed and it won't be from union backing.

                            The next fib you are going to pass on is if republicans Don't vote for amnesty, they will never win another election. That well may be, but it won't be from illegals voting democrat, it will be from republican benefactors withdrawing contributions. If you don't do what the Boss man wants, you will hit the bricks. And the Boss man wants lower wages, not the Union.

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                            • Clayton_Wetter
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 16671

                              #209
                              Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                              Wall Street and big business in bed with government is no better. It is not the unions that will bring in the new immigration bill. It does not benefit the unions to lower their memberships wages. This amnesty bill will be bi partisan if it gets passed and it won't be from union backing.

                              The next fib you are going to pass on is if republicans Don't vote for amnesty, they will never win another election. That well may be, but it won't be from illegals voting democrat, it will be from republican benefactors withdrawing contributions. If you don't do what the Boss man wants, you will hit the bricks. And the Boss man wants lower wages, not the Union.

                              Unions

                              Traditionally, the union movement strongly supported every legislative initiative in Congress to restrict immigration enforce existing immigration laws. Movement leaders knew that fluctuations in union membership were inversely related to prevailing immigration trends. Today, the AFL-CIO has turned its back on U.S. workers by endorsing illegal immigration & open borders.

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                              • LITE-INN
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 12473

                                #210
                                but it won't be from illegals voting democrat they should NT be able to vote this commie phone
                                Last edited by LITE-INN; 06-28-2013, 06:02 PM.

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