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  • Bubstr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3734

    #16
    [QUOTE=Clayton_Wetter;1687524]The Tea Party does not hate the so called 47%, they just feel that the Progressive Democrats are giving them handouts to own them. What is wrong with the idea of people earning a living?[/QUOTE

    With your argument of hand outs to own, what is the purpose of trying to take away entitlements to alienate? If you can't see the political babble, wake up. It's pure greed. Stand on a poor mans head to make you feel taller.

    Quite a few of those hand out where started a long time ago and not all by democrats. There is absolutely nothing wrong with people earning a living, but why was SS recipients, Military personal and the working poor included? Those people are working or have worked and paid the bill on their entitlements. Actually SS is not an entitlement it is a debt. The recipients paid for he money they collect now. It would be the 18% then. Not quite as impressive. Plus nothing was said at all about big business on the government teat. As a matter of fact, wasn't the bill to increase defense spending after the sequester, one of the tea parties own? Fiscal responsibility? More like wealth redistribution. Distributed from the middle class and poor to the wealthy.

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #17
      [QUOTE=Bubstr;1687679]
      Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
      The Tea Party does not hate the so called 47%, they just feel that the Progressive Democrats are giving them handouts to own them. What is wrong with the idea of people earning a living?[/QUOTE

      With your argument of hand outs to own, what is the purpose of trying to take away entitlements to alienate? If you can't see the political babble, wake up. It's pure greed. Stand on a poor mans head to make you feel taller.

      Quite a few of those hand out where started a long time ago and not all by democrats. There is absolutely nothing wrong with people earning a living, but why was SS recipients, Military personal and the working poor included? Those people are working or have worked and paid the bill on their entitlements. Actually SS is not an entitlement it is a debt. The recipients paid for he money they collect now. It would be the 18% then. Not quite as impressive. Plus nothing was said at all about big business on the government teat. As a matter of fact, wasn't the bill to increase defense spending after the sequester, one of the tea parties own? Fiscal responsibility? More like wealth redistribution. Distributed from the middle class and poor to the wealthy.
      You're not going to get away with the Progressives creating a class of dependent people that easy. A voting base to keep them in power intentionally. You SHOULD appreciate any movement to stop this corruption. But instead choose to Berate the Tea Party as no better than the Communists in power.

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      • Bubstr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3734

        #18
        [QUOTE=Clayton_Wetter;1687774]
        Originally posted by Bubstr View Post

        You're not going to get away with the Progressives creating a class of dependent people that easy. A voting base to keep them in power intentionally. You SHOULD appreciate any movement to stop this corruption. But instead choose to Berate the Tea Party as no better than the Communists in power.

        I didn't compare the tea party to the democrats. You did. I compared them to Occupy and we have Dumb and Dummer and I'm not sure which is which.

        If you wish to compare democrats to republicans, there is no shiny side to that coin either. That is why we have grid lock and bickering while our country goes to hell in a hand basket. Them simpletons would rather fight about who will be elected 3 years from now than fix any of our problems. They could screw up a one cow cattle drive.

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        • LITE-INN
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 12473

          #19
          [QUOTE=Bubstr;1687871]
          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post


          I didn't compare the tea party to the democrats. You did. I compared them to Occupy and we have Dumb and Dummer and I'm not sure which is which.

          If you wish to compare democrats to republicans, there is no shiny side to that coin either. That is why we have grid lock and bickering while our country goes to hell in a hand basket. Them simpletons would rather fight about who will be elected 3 years from now than fix any of our problems. They could screw up a one cow cattle drive.
          the tea party only wants less taxes and more use of the consitution

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          • Bubstr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 3734

            #20
            [QUOTE=LITE-INN;1687936]
            Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
            the tea party only wants less taxes and more use of the consitution
            That is what they say, but not how they vote. Talk is cheap. So far this session the only thing they voted for that passed was an increase in funding to defense. So much for less taxes. If there was one place we could cut, it would be defense. We spend more than the next ten put together.

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            • LITE-INN
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
              • 12473

              #21
              tell us one thing the occupy wall street did that was any good

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              • Bubstr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3734

                #22
                Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                tell us one thing the occupy wall street did that was any good
                Absolutely nothing. That makes them every bit as good or bad as the tea party. What you guys fail to see, is these groups that preach division aren't doing the people any good at all. The people have more in common with each other than they do with either of these groups.

                If you want change and you only want it your way, you don't want a solution. You will fight amongst your selves and the government will deteriorate and eventually go to the highest bidder. Then you will get it their way. Republic lost.

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                • Clayton_Wetter
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 16671

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                  Absolutely nothing. That makes them every bit as good or bad as the tea party. What you guys fail to see, is these groups that preach division aren't doing the people any good at all. The people have more in common with each other than they do with either of these groups.

                  If you want change and you only want it your way, you don't want a solution. You will fight amongst your selves and the government will deteriorate and eventually go to the highest bidder. Then you will get it their way. Republic lost.
                  Then we can count you out on supporting anyone who would honestly help the country? Are you hiding a secret solution on us, I say, not holding my breath?

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                  • Bubstr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3734

                    #24
                    The solution starts with people opening their eyes and seeing what a farce our political situation has become. The trouble is there are people that don't think anything is wrong with their party. They need to stop drinking the Cool Aid.

                    What happens if everyone looked to see who funds the person your thinking about voting for and ask a simple question? Do I have any common interests with the Sierra Club or The Chase Manhattan bank. Better yet there sould be a group formed to eliminate any campaign funding that the poorest person in this country can't afford. It's their country too. As a matter of fact, all campaigns should be funded with tax payer money only and spent evenly for the office they seek. I'd rather those politicians owed me than some special interest.

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                    • ss12
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3731

                      #25
                      Another good post Bubstr. Its amazing that a person can post a good video but didn't comprehend the message of the video.
                      Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                      • LITE-INN
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 12473

                        #26
                        it will never happen

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                        • Bubstr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3734

                          #27
                          When lite inn called me delusional, I almost fell off my Unicorn. Quit never won Jack.

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                          • Clayton_Wetter
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 16671

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                            The solution starts with people opening their eyes and seeing what a farce our political situation has become. The trouble is there are people that don't think anything is wrong with their party. They need to stop drinking the Cool Aid.

                            What happens if everyone looked to see who funds the person your thinking about voting for and ask a simple question? Do I have any common interests with the Sierra Club or The Chase Manhattan bank. Better yet there sould be a group formed to eliminate any campaign funding that the poorest person in this country can't afford. It's their country too. As a matter of fact, all campaigns should be funded with tax payer money only and spent evenly for the office they seek. I'd rather those politicians owed me than some special interest.
                            And how do we get the masses to see this and how are we going to accomplish this reform? By snubbing the Tea Party or anyone who stands for these reforms? At least there is a faction of the Republican Party that is fighting this cause (totally unknown to you I guess) unlike the Democrat party that is basically, totally lost to Progressivism.

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                            • Bubstr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3734

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                              And how do we get the masses to see this and how are we going to accomplish this reform? By snubbing the Tea Party or anyone who stands for these reforms? At least there is a faction of the Republican Party that is fighting this cause (totally unknown to you I guess) unlike the Democrat party that is basically, totally lost to Progressivism.
                              Put down the Cool Aid and back away. You and the Tea Party, republicans or the democrats are the problem, not the solution. I can find someone that will take up the other side of that argument, but that's all it is, an argument not a solution. If the democrats where the solution, they would have cured the woes of this country when they held both houses and the presidency. If the republicans where the answer they had the same chance under Bush. How many time are you going to let them fool you? Look how they voted when they had control, not to what they say. Both spent like drunken sailors. They spent your money chump. Why do you think the republicans lost both houses?

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                              • LITE-INN
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 12473

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                                Put down the Cool Aid and back away. You and the Tea Party, republicans or the democrats are the problem, not the solution. I can find someone that will take up the other side of that argument, but that's all it is, an argument not a solution. If the democrats where the solution, they would have cured the woes of this country when they held both houses and the presidency. If the republicans where the answer they had the same chance under Bush. How many time are you going to let them fool you? Look how they voted when they had control, not to what they say. Both spent like drunken sailors. They spent your money chump. Why do you think the republicans lost both houses?
                                And how do we get the masses to see this and how are we going to accomplish this reform? By snubbing the Tea Party or anyone who stands for these reforms? At least there is a faction of the Republican Party that is fighting this cause (totally unknown to you I guess) unlike the Democrat party that is basically, totally lost to Progressivism. totally agree unlike the occupy wallstreet which did nothing but do havoc

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