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  • Bubstr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3734

    #31
    Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
    Seriously? Of course we have some socialism in this country....I know you gotta know that...
    All free market Capitalist countries have a lot of Socialism in them. You would squeal like a pig if they didn't. No police dept. No Fire dept. No garbage pick up. No schools. No elections. No charities. Not even a standing army. I think some never learned what Social means. If it benefits all the people it's socialism. Capitalism is only concerned with one of the people. There has to be a balance.

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16407

      #32
      Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
      The democrats have been creating a voting base that relies on goverment since FDR. Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, War on poverty,Welfare, and Food stamps. The democrats need thos uninformed and misinformed robots to keep them in office.
      Yes you are right the Democrats do look after people. I guess we could be just like third world countries were we would have so many more homeless, starving and sick people spreading diseases.
      Democrats stay in office because those robots know they will look out for them. Just how many people do think have benefited from all those programs. Yes there are some that take advantage of the system and something needs to be done about it but, to say those are useless programs is just not true. That's why we live in the greatest country in the world because, we have people that care of others well being.

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      • kidrock
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 16407

        #33
        Originally posted by bubstr View Post
        all free market capitalist countries have a lot of socialism in them. You would squeal like a pig if they didn't. No police dept. No fire dept. No garbage pick up. No schools. No elections. No charities. Not even a standing army. I think some never learned what social means. If it benefits all the people it's socialism. Capitalism is only concerned with one of the people. There has to be a balance.
        and thank you sir !!!!!!

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        • Bubstr
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 3734

          #34
          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
          There is too much of an answer to your question than I have time to type. Will you not admit that the economy is being suppressed purposely by this Administration? ACA causing part time work and destroying health care coverage of millions down the road? EPA regulations severely hurting the coal industry and hampering oil and gas total operations. FDA putting small farmers and dairy producers out of business. Governments growing demands of taxes for spending on their own expansion. Printing money and making digital deposits in banks to the tune of 85 billion per month with talks of increasing that. Intentional inflation brought on by our own government. Millions of people drawing money taken from working citizens when they could be employed if the governments freebies were not given in excess, could be working and paying taxes instead of draining the taxes by being unemployed......... etc

          More people working means more tax income and less welfare outgoing. Which would go a long way in balancing and cutting federal deficits.

          "More people working means more tax income and less welfare outgoing. Which would go a long way in balancing and cutting federal deficits."


          We have more unemployment right now than we have for a long time. By the way the unemployment started over two years before the ACA. You never explained how more unemployed than we have now is going to improve the economy. More work force now translates to more unemployment now. The work force doesn't automatically show up with jobs. Where will those jobs come from to create all these taxpayers your talking about? Almost 10% of the country is looking for work now. They would like to know where these magic jobs are. Should we add 10% more so we would have 20% looking for work and drawing welfare?

          There is a lot of truth in some of the rest of your post, Most of it stems from corporate protection and it does hurt the circulation of money. The circulation of money is the economy. Someone is holding on to that money and it's not circulating. Any guesses as to who that may be? I mean, that $84 billion a month, has to be going somewhere. It darned sure isn't going to the poor or even the middle class. Their wealth isn't growing.

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          • mudslinger47
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 3452

            #35
            Bubstr, I wasn't complaining....just stating a fact.

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            • ss12
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3730

              #36
              Popular revulsion for the ruling elite is nearly universal. Are we going to see an uprising?
              Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #37
                Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                Yes Communism does redistribute wealth, but Capitalism does also. Your point?
                Communism takes by man made laws, not God given rights.

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                • Clayton_Wetter
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 16671

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                  "More people working means more tax income and less welfare outgoing. Which would go a long way in balancing and cutting federal deficits."


                  We have more unemployment right now than we have for a long time. By the way the unemployment started over two years before the ACA. You never explained how more unemployed than we have now is going to improve the economy. More work force now translates to more unemployment now. The work force doesn't automatically show up with jobs. Where will those jobs come from to create all these taxpayers your talking about? Almost 10% of the country is looking for work now. They would like to know where these magic jobs are. Should we add 10% more so we would have 20% looking for work and drawing welfare?

                  There is a lot of truth in some of the rest of your post, Most of it stems from corporate protection and it does hurt the circulation of money. The circulation of money is the economy. Someone is holding on to that money and it's not circulating. Any guesses as to who that may be? I mean, that $84 billion a month, has to be going somewhere. It darned sure isn't going to the poor or even the middle class. Their wealth isn't growing.
                  Where did I say MORE unemployed will help the economy? AM I missing something?

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #39
                    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                    Yes you are right the Democrats do look after people. I guess we could be just like third world countries were we would have so many more homeless, starving and sick people spreading diseases.
                    Democrats stay in office because those robots know they will look out for them. Just how many people do think have benefited from all those programs. Yes there are some that take advantage of the system and something needs to be done about it but, to say those are useless programs is just not true. That's why we live in the greatest country in the world because, we have people that care of others well being.
                    They don't look after people. They use them for political gains. How is forcing millions of people to lose health care looking after them? But Obummer cooly says, they need to shop around at healthcare.gov that they can't even get on and when they do they are not signing up because of outrageous prices and huge deductibles.

                    The only way they are falsely looking out for people is demanding more taxes and taking your money to create new agencies to expand their size. And giving money to the poor to buy their votes.

                    The great LIE and DECEPTION that they care is false.

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                    • LITE-INN
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 12473

                      #40
                      and people are losing the coverage they have now how is that helping

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                      • LITE-INN
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 12473

                        #41
                        ahh better times here http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=52664 I guess it was bush's fault here also

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 16671

                          #42
                          Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                          ahh better times here http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=52664 I guess it was bush's fault here also
                          It's a good thing the Democrat party fabricated lies started blaming Bush for everything. Of course people are not supposed to know the inconvenient truth are they?

                          The media is a partisan weapon to boot.

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                          • LITE-INN
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 12473

                            #43
                            its all gwb fault I tell you what I was living better when bush was in office than this bozo even my mom and dad who were staunch dummycraps have now changed their ways

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                            • Bubstr
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3734

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                              Where did I say MORE unemployed will help the economy? AM I missing something?
                              That was the question about the link posted by Kite in, when you jumped in. Stay focused.

                              Quote Originally Posted by LITE-INN View Post

                              Ok, I'll play the debate game. This article states," The Congressional Budget Office issued a report last fall examining the slow rate of growth in the U.S. economy following the last recession.

                              It concluded that the single most significant factor now limiting America's potential economic growth is the declining growth of the potential labor force -- which has recently increased at only half the rate it did in the years following World War II.

                              "That slower growth of potential employment primarily reflects three developments," said CBO. "The most important is that, since about 1980, demographic trends have slowed the growth of the population that is working age and, therefore, the growth of the potential labor force."

                              If that statement is factual, can you explain the extraordinarily high unemployment rate today?

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                              • mudslinger47
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 3452

                                #45
                                Hey Bubstr, pay attention, there ain't no jobs for the workin man.... there are some tech jobs and good ones, but they require a bit of education and most of the workin man workforce isn't like to go to school for two or three yrs for get those jobs, they have families to feed, enter the Democrats, make the average family on food stamps, welfare and free medical and they're makein' 40 to 60 K comparative, why work?

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