Prolly why I detest unions.....

**ss12** · 01-15-2014, 06:24 AM

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11344

**Bubstr** · 01-15-2014, 10:36 AM

There is a lot wrong with the EPA and corporate regulation on a whole. This deal in West Virginia is nothing new. Coal is king there and the EPA is not immune to local pressure. This is a chemical that is used for treating coal. Do you see the red flags? No inspection hor ten years. They find the leak because of smell. Something smells alright.

Then we can look back at the EXION spill in the Gulf and they shut down every rig in the Gulf, even the ones that where doing it right. They are aiding in blocking any new oil wells, The EPA doesn't do it by it's self. First there is a injunction filed by one of the echo groups. This happens 100% of the time, but that is only the start of it. The not so timely actions of the EPA stretches this process out to over 7 years in most cases. Keep in mind not 100% of these defendants have prior offenses and it males little difference in who goes threw this process and drills that well. As a matter of fact the ones with priors are the ones that can afford to go threw this process. Now do you really think these big oil companies want less regulation, when they drill and cap wells now to keep prices up?

The EPA is the spill that needs cleaned up. BTW Cincinnati just closed it's water pick up in the Ohio river and is pulling water out of reservoirs.

**mudslinger47** · 01-15-2014, 11:09 AM

The EPA has probably cost more jobs in the USA then about any other entity, and all you guys that "say" your for the little guy cheer them on....whats up with that? Come on Kid, you go first....

**Clayton_Wetter** · 01-15-2014, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Bubstr View Post

There is a lot wrong with the EPA and corporate regulation on a whole. This deal in West Virginia is nothing new. Coal is king there and the EPA is not immune to local pressure. This is a chemical that is used for treating coal. Do you see the red flags? No inspection hor ten years. They find the leak because of smell. Something smells alright.

Then we can look back at the EXION spill in the Gulf and they shut down every rig in the Gulf, even the ones that where doing it right. They are aiding in blocking any new oil wells, The EPA doesn't do it by it's self. First there is a injunction filed by one of the echo groups. This happens 100% of the time, but that is only the start of it. The not so timely actions of the EPA stretches this process out to over 7 years in most cases. Keep in mind not 100% of these defendants have prior offenses and it males little difference in who goes threw this process and drills that well. As a matter of fact the ones with priors are the ones that can afford to go threw this process. Now do you really think these big oil companies want less regulation, when they drill and cap wells now to keep prices up?

The EPA is the spill that needs cleaned up. BTW Cincinnati just closed it's water pick up in the Ohio river and is pulling water out of reservoirs.

You speak the truth here! And the EPA is just one branch of a corrupt government in power.

**Bubstr** · 01-15-2014, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post

You speak the truth here! And the EPA is just one branch of a corrupt government in power.

It has been this way as long as I cab remember, no matter who is in power.

**kidrock** · 01-15-2014, 10:18 PM

Here is something I don't understand. some on here despise communism but, stick up for American corporation who use communist labor because its cheap labor. They would rather see them use cheap communist labor then see their fellow Americans make a decent wage.

**LITE-INN** · 01-15-2014, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by kidrock View Post

Here is something I don't understand. some on here despise communism but, stick up for American corporation who use communist labor because its cheap labor. They would rather see them use cheap communist labor then see their fellow Americans make a decent wage.

who is sticking up for anybody

**ss12** · 01-16-2014, 06:45 AM

Kidrock, Americans corporations can't see what's really is going on. All they are worried about it the profit they are making. All they are doing is enriching the communist movement at the expense of capitalism. China is buying a lot of real estate in America. They just bought J.P. Morgan building for 700 some million. The building was worth 1.7 billion. Some speculate that they had to sell it because they couldn't pay up on a debt(Gold) so it was used as collateral.

**Clayton_Wetter** · 01-16-2014, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by kidrock View Post

Here is something I don't understand. some on here despise communism but, stick up for American corporation who use communist labor because its cheap labor. They would rather see them use cheap communist labor then see their fellow Americans make a decent wage.

I don't stick up for any corporation doing that, but many were forced to leave because of union greed, too much government imposed taxes, regulations, and interference. NAFTA was something our government had no business doing.

And aren't the labor camps and slave labor the direct result of Communism in China and other nations? Not American Corporations?

Gotchya!!!

**kidrock** · 01-16-2014, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post

I don't stick up for any corporation doing that, but many were forced to leave because of union greed, too much government imposed taxes, regulations, and interference. NAFTA was something our government had no business doing.

And aren't the labor camps and slave labor the direct result of Communism in China and other nations? Not American Corporations?

Gotchya!!!

Of course you do. You would rather see them use cheap communist labor then to use are own labor right here in the good ole USA. Yes you would think these companies would be apposed to this kind of slave labor but, their greed gets in the way and they turn a blind eye to it. Kind of sicking don't you think.

**racin6mod** · 01-16-2014, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by kidrock View Post

Here is something I don't understand. some on here despise communism but, stick up for American corporation who use communist labor because its cheap labor. They would rather see them use cheap communist labor then see their fellow Americans make a decent wage.

They need to show the investors a huge profit just a profit is not good enough anymore. They can make money using the us labor force and not shipping product back and forth but they just look at the bottom line. the thing is they forget if the us consumer does not have a job they can not buy the products. We as a nation need to get back to buying are stuff locally from our neighbors no wal mart.kmart or target they all sell crap from china and other countries.

**kidrock** · 01-16-2014, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by racin6mod View Post

They need to show the investors a huge profit just a profit is not good enough anymore. They can make money using the us labor force and not shipping product back and forth but they just look at the bottom line. the thing is they forget if the us consumer does not have a job they can not buy the products. We as a nation need to get back to buying are stuff locally from our neighbors no wal mart.kmart or target they all sell crap from china and other countries.

I can't agree with you more. Could you imagine if we really did have those jobs back here and people actually being able to buy and spend money but, of course what would these useless politicians have for talking points. Some on here would rather they use that cheap cheap slave labor before they would have their own fellow Americans making a decent wage. Oh yes we would not want these corps to pollute the air and water like they are doing in china but, they don't care as long as wall st is happy. Just down right sickening.