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  • LITE-INN
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    #31
    doobie doobie do

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    • Bubstr
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      • Feb 2008
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      #32
      Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
      Your to stupid to "try" and discuss it with... first of all, consumers don't produce and sell, they buy... chit for brains...and next that was the exact point I was asking for clarification for ya pointless pinhead....And where the 1% come from makes all the difference.....try thinking for a change....
      A little testy there, I'd say.

      All consumers buy with the proceeds of their labor. That maybe a lot of production or a little. For some it;s as simple as cashing a check each month. It doesn't matter. If you don't have a buyer, you can't sell jack. If you can't sell it you would be the chit for brains to make it and wait for it to spoil or the bank to repossess it.

      When there us a consumer, finance to aid production can be useful, but make no mistake, that finance is not the job creator. It's just shortens time frame to full production. It also gives you a pardner in your business, permanently in some cases.

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      • Bubstr
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        • Feb 2008
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        #33
        Originally posted by C4Vette View Post
        So what is your answer? If the government takes more of the 1%ers money does that mean the 47%ers will buy more?
        No it does not guarantee the the 99%, the remainder of 100 minus 1, will buy more. On the other hand, giving tax breaks to the 1% does not buy more either. However if all tax payers where charged the same rate, you wouldn't have to pay the 1%'s share. If that resulted in lower rates, debt reduction or social programs, would be up to our representatives, just as it is now. The point is we are paying them, job creator wages and they are not doing their job. The point is. there is more money in circulation than ever before, taxes on the highest earners are as low as they have ever been, after 30 years the trickle down, job creator experiment has failed. Let's go back to something that worked, the job creator is a myth.

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        • LITE-INN
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          #34
          http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/factsh...-creating-jobs shame our commander in chief can't f'n read

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          • LITE-INN
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            #35
            Despite what defenders of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act claim, business owners report that they are cutting jobs and hours because of the new law.

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            • mudslinger47
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
              A little testy there, I'd say.

              All consumers buy with the proceeds of their labor. That maybe a lot of production or a little. For some it;s as simple as cashing a check each month. It doesn't matter. If you don't have a buyer, you can't sell jack. If you can't sell it you would be the chit for brains to make it and wait for it to spoil or the bank to repossess it.

              When there us a consumer, finance to aid production can be useful, but make no mistake, that finance is not the job creator. It's just shortens time frame to full production. It also gives you a pardner in your business, permanently in some cases.


              And the point is, bird breath, if your taking from the pool of the world, the 1% out purchase the rest buy arguably 10 times....If your taking from a pool of America only not so much....I thought you'd be able to figure that out, but alas, I was wrong....

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              • t.nie
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                • Aug 2008
                • 1146

                #37
                Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                And the point is, bird breath, if your taking from the pool of the world, the 1% out purchase the rest buy arguably 10 times....If your taking from a pool of America only not so much....I thought you'd be able to figure that out, but alas, I was wrong....
                Falling for the Koch brothers propaganda again, I see.

                It really doesn't matter that in America, we are all wealthier beyond the wildest dreams of most other people in the world, because our economy isn't based on the cost of goods in third world countries or other poor nations. Bottom line is I don't buy milk in Indonesia, gas from Malaysia, or purchase my home based on the cost of a grass hut in Africa.

                I have to survive in the American economy, where yes, we have a lot of money, but we also have much much higher prices for everything too.

                Quite frankly, when I saw the Koch brothers propaganda piece, I instantly recognized it as a red herring. They are trying to deflect the attention off themselves and their greed by painting this picture that every person in the nation they are plundering is a 1%er if you change the point of reference from just America to The World. They are trying to reframe the perspective so that they don't look so greedy by making this argument that All Americans are 1%ers.

                Its a good piece of PR, if you are gullible enough to buy it.

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                • LITE-INN
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                  #38
                  prices and wages are relative but the truth who is the job creaters ,small business where do you think Koch brothers get their customers

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                  • mudslinger47
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                    Falling for the Koch brothers propaganda again, I see.

                    It really doesn't matter that in America, we are all wealthier beyond the wildest dreams of most other people in the world, because our economy isn't based on the cost of goods in third world countries or other poor nations. Bottom line is I don't buy milk in Indonesia, gas from Malaysia, or purchase my home based on the cost of a grass hut in Africa.

                    I have to survive in the American economy, where yes, we have a lot of money, but we also have much much higher prices for everything too.

                    Quite frankly, when I saw the Koch brothers propaganda piece, I instantly recognized it as a red herring. They are trying to deflect the attention off themselves and their greed by painting this picture that every person in the nation they are plundering is a 1%er if you change the point of reference from just America to The World. They are trying to reframe the perspective so that they don't look so greedy by making this argument that All Americans are 1%ers.

                    Its a good piece of PR, if you are gullible enough to buy it.

                    I think they wrote a song about you....to stupid for yourself.... I haven't presently, or ever, for that matter read anything put out by the Koch brothers....unlike you, I prefer to think for myself...now go ahead and throw up a bunch of links that do your thinking for you....

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                    • Mittvok
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                      • Aug 2011
                      • 621

                      #40
                      Job creator thing is a myth. If a buisness NEEDS to create a position, it will. If they don't NEED to, they won't.

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                      • t.nie
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1146

                        #41
                        Sorry Duane, we leave the link posting to newsmax to the right wingers who need that sort of crutch to fall back on.

                        You probably don't even KNOW when you are fed Koch Brothers propaganda. Yet when reading your posts, you parrot some of the latest Koch brothers offerings in the media.

                        Now, I know YOU aren't smart enough to make those arguments, so its just a matter of putting two and two together to see where you got your latest opinion spoon fed to you from, whether you realized it or not. I never said they were not very capable manipulators of people, and you just proved it with your latest argument about income and the 1 versus 100 stuff, and the point you tried to make mirrors the latest Koch offering.

                        Sorry Duane, but they just owned you.

                        Would like some more Koch?

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                        • LITE-INN
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                          #42
                          tnie is all knowing also and if you don't buy their product they don't own you

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                          • t.nie
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                            • Aug 2008
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                            Ya know, your not really as smart as you seem to think you are...the top 1% world wide include folks that make around 35K and up ya dumb azz... I wasn't jammin' ya I was asking a point of refrence but in typical lib bias you go off....again, ya dumb azz
                            So, where did you get this from? You say you aren't influenced by the Koch Brothers propaganda....

                            Really? This is straight from the Charles Koch foundation. Here's the link to the Koch foundation video you pulled your facts from. Now very slowly and carefully watch the Koch Foundation propaganda piece, then compare it to your words above. Then tell me you don't parrot propaganda.



                            Yeah. You don't get your opinions fed to you by the Koch propaganda machine. You're an "independent free thinker." Heck, those "dum azzes" at the Koch Foundation STOLE this idea from YOU!!!! LOL

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                            • t.nie
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1146

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                              I think they wrote a song about you....to stupid for yourself.... I haven't presently, or ever, for that matter read anything put out by the Koch brothers....unlike you, I prefer to think for myself...now go ahead and throw up a bunch of links that do your thinking for you....


                              Yeah. You "think for yourself." Right. Watch the video, from the Koch Foundation, then go back and reread your "35k makes you a 1%er" comments, then tell us all you have NEVER been influenced by the Koch brothers. Oh, sure, you stupidly say "I didn't read it! It was a VIDEO!" and I guess that makes perfect sense. but it also shows you need pictures and someone else telling you what to think, you get your information the low IQ way.

                              Now I'll just sit back and wait to get called a "dum azz" by the great intellectual giant of 4m who doesn't have the foggiest idea where he gets his ideas from and actually.... LOLOL... thinks he thinks of it himself! LOLOLOL
                              Last edited by t.nie; 01-07-2014, 12:04 PM.

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                              • LITE-INN
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                                #45
                                how is that hope and changy working out for you

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