Originally posted by Headhunter
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Kyle Busch is the best
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Your statement goes no where. None of it is true regarding Tony or Kyle. Tony worked his way up the latter, i watched it. His performance got him where he is. Kyle has won over 100 Nascar races already. No body gave him anything but a reward for superior talent.
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You are really blinded by hate and ignorance, aren't you? you can't begin to back up your remarks. you should stick to loving Bloomer, then you are on safe ground. Assessing Nascar talent is not your strong suit.Originally posted by blackford View PostHeadhunter said it all!!! I know of plenty talented racers that would make the "little Bush"
(such a suiting name for him, lol) look like the kid that just had his training wheels removed! I know not all of the talented drivers get the chance KB, and TS did, but to come on here and say KB and TS are the greatest is ridiculous sense nether of them poses the talent and mentality it takes to be a consistent contender. Maybe one day they will... but it is going to take a lot of growing up, self control, and I don't see either one ever accomplishing that!!
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Kyle Busch gets inconsistent cars. sometime good, often time not. You get him near the front and see what happens. BTW it not the same team, car etc that Bobby won in. You put Busch in cars as good as Johnson gets with a good pitcrew and he will win 12-15 races a yr.Originally posted by CIRF View PostI sometimes read this stuff about Kyle Busch other boards, one in particular where a bunch of former 4m'ers hang out. I don't begin to try to make anyone believe that I am a flawless judge of driver talent, but the results just don't add up. The 18 car has a championship pedigree, what is KB waiting for? If he's gonna' go down in history as one the greatest of all time he better pick up the pace. He hasn't shown the ability to sustain a run of high achieving consistency. Bobby Labonte won a championship in that car and I don't consider him to be in the top ten in driver rankings, but he is in the top 2 or 3 in class and humble dignity and Busch could learn a lot from Bobby in that regard.
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Don't off your perch. Mean while try learning something about racing talent.Originally posted by CIRF View PostBe sure to come back when the lowlife fool wins 6 or 7 championships. Bad a$$, riiiiiiight! Bbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahah ahahaha!!!! Even then he'll still be nothing piece of human garbage that no one with a lick of sense or an ounce of class could be a fan of.
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If I were blinded by hate and ignorance I would be on your side, wouldn't I? Of course you can't see that, it would be a safe bet that most can. You're ridiculous constant babble about a racer that hasn't enough ability in a race car to fill a Pepsi cap is all that's needed to know how well you asses talent... who do you think doesn't see the fact that KB hasn't got the mentality nor the stability to do anything but drive over his head? Sure he has been impressive with some of the moves and the ability to drive, but if you can't be there at the finish at a consistent level, Who in there right mind is going to provided a superior team and ride? It ain't gonna happen, he isn't there to answer the call!!!Originally posted by TS FAN View PostYou are really blinded by hate and ignorance, aren't you? you can't begin to back up your remarks. you should stick to loving Bloomer, then you are on safe ground. Assessing Nascar talent is not your strong suit.
Scott Bloomchrist... The Lord, and Ruler of DIRT!!
"Hope everybody appreciated that ass kicking"
-Scott Bloomquist
Phil
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Championships do not mean he is a good driver!!!!!!!
Championships are of the PAST.
For example Richard Petty.
I liked Montoyas performance. Sideways twice at 180 mph.
Went to the back 3 times.
Would have done better if Mcmurray didnt have problems. Still placed 6th, no scratches.
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Originally posted by blackford View PostIf I were blinded by hate and ignorance I would be on your side, wouldn't I? Of course you can't see that, it would be a safe bet that most can. You're ridiculous constant babble about a racer that hasn't enough ability in a race car to fill a Pepsi cap is all that's needed to know how well you asses talent... who do you think doesn't see the fact that KB hasn't got the mentality nor the stability to do anything but drive over his head? Sure he has been impressive with some of the moves and the ability to drive, but if you can't be there at the finish at a consistent level, Who in there right mind is going to provided a superior team and ride? It ain't gonna happen, he isn't there to answer the call!!!
Your hate is clouding your judgement. Feel good though, you have company. Kyle Busch is the best Nascar driver of this generation. His peers mostly agree.
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KB
Maybe Kyle's new wife will teach him to be a good loser instead of pouting and dragging his chin all the way to his trailer after getting outrun on the track. Good guys know how to win and lose.
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So i went searching to find out how many wins he has in Nascar. Turns out to be 85, not over 100. That's a big diff, but not the reason for my post. During my search I ended up on Shrubs website, looking at his bio. Then I got this weird chill down my spine, and closed the site immediately. I hope nobody checks my browsing history. I feel so dirty!
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Your statement goes no where. None of it is true regarding Tony or Kyle. Tony worked his way up the latter, i watched it. His performance got him where he is. Kyle has won over 100 Nascar races already. No body gave him anything but a reward for superior talent.
To honest I was generalizing that comment to most NASCAR drivers in that series today, Did not mean to get your skivvies in such a bunch.
I do not think there is the driving talent of old there any more. It is 80% set up, 10% driver and 10% strategy. Bar luck, these races are now won from behind a computer screen, If it was not for the engineers running Chassis simulations or FEA analasyis, Wind tunnels and shaker rigs.
How many of them would not be there is it was not for what I said? Sorry but the best talent in the world will get you no place in this sport without the BEST equipment, knowlede and finacial support from someplace. If they were that good then they could win the Daytona 500 with a old street stock.
I stand by my statement that there are at least 3-4 guys running at you local tracks that could be just as good as ANY of them on TV they just never hit the sperm lottery or had the right connections.
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No hate here, just like too watch you and you're soul mate KB continue too make fools of yourselves...Originally posted by TS FAN View PostYour hate is clouding your judgement. Feel good though, you have company. Kyle Busch is the best Nascar driver of this generation. His peers mostly agree.
To say KB is the best, only shows you haven't a clue about what it takes to be successful in any racing or anything else for that matter!! But continue on, you give this board someone to laugh at...
Scott Bloomchrist... The Lord, and Ruler of DIRT!!
"Hope everybody appreciated that ass kicking"
-Scott Bloomquist
Phil
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Stats from NASCAR
Kyle Busch's 86TH NASCAR career win 7th All-Time at age 25 (tied with Bobby Allison at 86) - 24th win of 2010 as of 11-20-2010 it came in a Nationwide race at Homestead
11-20-10. Kyle Busch scored his 86th NASCAR victory; he passed Cale Yarborough (he had 83 wins). Kyle won 8 truck races out of 16 starts in truck in 2010.
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All Time Nascar Wins
1. Richard Petty 200
2. David Pearson 106
3. Dale Earnhardt 97
3. Darrell Waltrip 97
5. Mark Martin 95
6. Jeff Gordon 87
7. Bobby Allison 86
7. Kyle Busch 86
8.Cale Yarborough 83
9. Kevin Harvick 59
10. Rusty Wallace 55
11. Jimmy Johnson 54
12. Junior Johnson 50
13. Greg Biffle 52
14. Tony Stewart 50
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I know one of Petty's win's #199 or #200 came with an over size engine. And a bunch came with a chopped top / with a vinyl roof to hide it. Said the vinyl top made it work like a golf ball with the dimples...
Also Petty and Pearson's wins were on dirt. A lot of the drivers wins in the top 3 or 4 above came in Sportsman and Nationwide.
I been watching a lot of this NASCAR stuff since the late 50's /early 60's. Seen Allison in the Madoor (sp) AMC. Benny Parson in the #98 Ford win the ARCA 200 at Daytona in 1969.
Kyle Busch is a fresh breath of air to Nascar. Watching practice today, look for Kyle to add to his win list this weekend.
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H$ll, Kyle has only won 1 more Sprint Cup race than JR, and according to some people JR is the worse driver in Sprint Cup. At least Gordon's record of 87 races consist of 82 Sprint Cup wins. All but 1 of JJ's wins were Sprint Cup. Got to compare apples to apples. People say "if he had good equipment" he would have won more. I think Gibbs has given Kyle excellent equipment, but Kyle seems to tear them up before it gets time to go for the win.
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laughing my butt off. Kyle takes winning cars and wrecks.Really? No, Kyle takes winning cars and wins with them 86 times by age 25. When and if he gets consistant cars, he will reek havoc and dominate the sport. Then I will be laughing at the Kyle haters.
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