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  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #16
    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
    Roll your eyes all you want to mr. NASCAR apologist. Rolling your eyes doesn't help this BS to make any more sense!

    This Atlanta debacle is just one more in a long line!

    One car, 2 lap qualifying worked very, very well for 60 some years. I heard of no one making any plea's for a different qualifying process. NO ONE!! Then NASCAR, in their infinite wisdom, decides to try to qualify like Formula 1. They just added this qualifying crap to all the other gimmicks trying to somehow gin up attendance and TV ratings. Well NASCAR, the other gimmicks ain't workin' and neither is this one!!

    How much money did this stupidity cost teams at Daytona? And what does it add to the racing? I have never heard from anyone what prompted NASCAR to adapt this qualifying procedure. It seems they just wanna' be like F1. Well NASCAR, this ain't Europe or South America and it dam sure ain't F1! We've already seen what that policy did for Indy Cars.

    If they want to make qualifying more exciting then use the 4 lap average similar to the Indy 500 qualifying (before Indy Car screwed that up, as well) like was suggested by some drivers at Daytona.

    NASCAR appears determined to continue to be absolutely clueless!!
    Problem with grand national racing governing body is that they are marketing to the wrong groups of folks..........they are trying to bring in the x gen fair weather race fan groups of soccer moms,corporate dad's and " look at me" people that are there just to be seen and have 200 mph toilet paper, chain restaurants and kitchen cleaner billboards advertise to them.

    And in return are driving away the hard core true race fans that would be there absolutely no matter what.
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • drano
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1339

      #17
      Nascar cater's to what I call the microwave fan they click a button and a min later they will be on to something else, nascar has forgot the loyal fans of yesterday.

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      • Barbecueboy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 18116

        #18
        Originally posted by drano View Post
        Nascar cater's to what I call the microwave fan they click a button and a min later they will be on to something else, nascar has forgot the loyal fans of yesterday.
        And aren't really doing anything to cultivate the fan of tomorrow............guess that's what dirt tracks are for!
        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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        • golddirt
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3772

          #19
          kind of like filing your taxes on april 16th and blaming the irs.

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          • drano
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1339

            #20
            Originally posted by golddirt View Post
            kind of like filing your taxes on april 16th and blaming the irs.
            Do you not blame the IRS.

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            • drano
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1339

              #21
              Saw where local Georgia dirt track driver Wendell Chavous made the truck race today.

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              • mudslinger47
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 3452

                #22
                Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                Roll your eyes all you want to mr. NASCAR apologist. Rolling your eyes doesn't help this BS to make any more sense!

                This Atlanta debacle is just one more in a long line!

                One car, 2 lap qualifying worked very, very well for 60 some years. I heard of no one making any plea's for a different qualifying process. NO ONE!! Then NASCAR, in their infinite wisdom, decides to try to qualify like Formula 1. They just added this qualifying crap to all the other gimmicks trying to somehow gin up attendance and TV ratings. Well NASCAR, the other gimmicks ain't workin' and neither is this one!!

                How much money did this stupidity cost teams at Daytona? And what does it add to the racing? I have never heard from anyone what prompted NASCAR to adapt this qualifying procedure. It seems they just wanna' be like F1. Well NASCAR, this ain't Europe or South America and it dam sure ain't F1! We've already seen what that policy did for Indy Cars.

                If they want to make qualifying more exciting then use the 4 lap average similar to the Indy 500 qualifying (before Indy Car screwed that up, as well) like was suggested by some drivers at Daytona.

                NASCAR appears determined to continue to be absolutely clueless!!

                Step into the new world...the rules have changed, they don't do it like that anymore...for cryin in the beer pale, I'm the old guy here.... the teams screwed themselves..period... NASCAR give them a format and rules to run by, if they don't like it don't run NASCAR....

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                • mudslinger47
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 3452

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                  Maybe slower will work............

                  Heeeyyyy mudddddddddd, waaaasssssss referrrrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnngggggg to the bbbbbbiiiiiiiiggggggggg picture problem with naaaaaasssssscccccaaaaarrrrrrr!

                  Not some one race rule infractions incident at Atlanta.

                  Remove head from rectum please!
                  So Mr. Brilliant Guy...point out to me where NASCAR mess up this weekend under their present rules. You can't cause they didn't.... And as for the person talking about a time extension, they got one 15 minutes if I recall.

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                  • lovinlatemodels
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 486

                    #24
                    Nascar didn't blow this the teams trying to get something out of spec through tech that's who blew this. I may not agree with all there rules but this is how it's done. As far as qualifying I think they need to shorten even more this back out of the pits and sit on pit lane till the last minute is stupid. Time would be just enough to back up and make 2 laps no more sitting and waiting. I'd rather see qualifying Sunday morning and race the same day. They claim there the best of the best then why do they need 2 days of practice to get it together.

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #25
                      Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                      So Mr. Brilliant Guy...point out to me where NASCAR mess up this weekend under their present rules. You can't cause they didn't.... And as for the person talking about a time extension, they got one 15 minutes if I recall.
                      Are you drunk bud????

                      CLEARLY........AND I THOUGHT CRYSTAL , was my statement about the bigger picture problem with nascar.

                      Not some one time qualifying incident in Atlanta that you keep trying to bring up.

                      Nascar is in ( and I'll go slowly again) ...........TTTTTRRRROUBLE.

                      it's like a 3rd world country dictatorship the way they govern .........prices are too high.....quality of racing too low.......and the cast of characters doing it( short of a few racers ) are nothing more than 200 mph finger puppets.

                      So you keep on being the apologist , keep thinking all is great in boogity, boogity, boogity land.......in 10 years , after all the seats are ripped out of failing tracks and recycled into clothes hangars, get back to me.

                      Until then , I'll keep being Mr brilliant and you can keep being the emperor that isn't wearing any clothes.......unfamiliar???? It's a good read......check it out!

                      It's a short story about reality.
                      Last edited by Barbecueboy; 02-28-2015, 05:26 PM.
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lovinlatemodels View Post
                        Nascar didn't blow this the teams trying to get something out of spec through tech that's who blew this. I may not agree with all there rules but this is how it's done. As far as qualifying I think they need to shorten even more this back out of the pits and sit on pit lane till the last minute is stupid. Time would be just enough to back up and make 2 laps no more sitting and waiting. I'd rather see qualifying Sunday morning and race the same day. They claim there the best of the best then why do they need 2 days of practice to get it together.
                        Like your idea of Sunday am qualifying a lot...........but in my opinion,they aren't the best of the best anymore, they are just the best of the rest.

                        With very few exceptions, there are Far better drivers in other racing disciplines these days than nascar.........and most of them don't look like or act like a ken doll.
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • Nasty55
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2611

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                          Like your idea of Sunday am qualifying a lot...........but in my opinion,they aren't the best of the best anymore, they are just the best of the rest.

                          With very few exceptions, there are Far better drivers in other racing disciplines these days than nascar.........and most of them don't look like or act like a ken doll.
                          Im with you on the qualifying on sunday deal but i doubt that it will ever happen because if that were to happen it might give some of the underfunded teams a fair advantage lol and boy oh boy we cant have any of that in nascar...
                          If you can't race it or take it to bed! It ain't worth having!

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                          • Barbecueboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 18116

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Nasty55 View Post
                            Im with you on the qualifying on sunday deal but i doubt that it will ever happen because if that were to happen it might give some of the underfunded teams a fair advantage lol and boy oh boy we cant have any of that in nascar...
                            Noooooooooooooooooooooo.

                            Would be terrible for nascar sponsorship agreements if the "joes garage chevy" outran the " tampax Toyota" in the crown royal 500.

                            But your right..........a pipe dream on the Sunday qualifying.
                            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                            • mudslinger47
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 3452

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                              Are you drunk bud????

                              CLEARLY........AND I THOUGHT CRYSTAL , was my statement about the bigger picture problem with nascar.

                              Not some one time qualifying incident in Atlanta that you keep trying to bring up.

                              Nascar is in ( and I'll go slowly again) ...........TTTTTRRRROUBLE.

                              it's like a 3rd world country dictatorship the way they govern .........prices are too high.....quality of racing too low.......and the cast of characters doing it( short of a few racers ) are nothing more than 200 mph finger puppets.

                              So you keep on being the apologist , keep thinking all is great in boogity, boogity, boogity land.......in 10 years , after all the seats are ripped out of failing tracks and recycled into clothes hangars, get back to me.

                              Until then , I'll keep being Mr brilliant and you can keep being the emperor that isn't wearing any clothes.......unfamiliar???? It's a good read......check it out!

                              It's a short story about reality.
                              I like the format on the non restrictor plate track...your probably an older fuddy duddy then CIRF....get over it...NASCAR changed... your saying it sucks means about as much as me saying I like it....we disagree.... and in ten years I may be dead, so why would I care? For the present, I and a couple million others like it...NASCAR will survive and ole coots like you will wither on the vine....

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                              • stockcar5
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 1289

                                #30
                                Nascar will be dead when it has lower viewership ratings than soccer.

                                Oh wait that already happened...LOL

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