Learning through News Reports

[jog49]

Don't forget the biggest story of all.....the "nationalization" of privately held Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the suspensions of activities of their boards of directors.....essentially kidnapping and holding these corporations hostage while diverting all of their quarterly profits to the US Treasury. This action breaks all securities laws ever written in this country and ought to open the eyes of ANY privately held corporations because it could happen to any one of them.

[kidrock]

Ok CIRF, I looked into the Kate Steinle situation and the first thing is I feel really bad for the Steinle family what a terrible tragedy. The second thing it just shows how bad we need to get the boarders secured. The third thing is to stop playing politics with immigration and get something done about it.

Now as far as Obama visiting the family probably would have been a good thing to do but, I don't see where he is obligated to do so but, if your going to visit the family's of others who have been murdered for political reason which I believe he did in some of those he has visited if not all then why not take the time to visit the Steinle family. Just shows how damm political things have become.

As far as the head of homeland security he did seem like he had an attitude about the situation and he should have been more sympathetic to the Steinle family. And yes he had to know the Steinle family and what happened. If he didn't then I'm not so sure he is the right guy for the job.

[dirtisforracin]

Kid sorry, you did know the news about Kate Steinle, means you watch every news channel, with exception of Fox news. Did you forget our President met and even had a deserter family at White house, he did not meet with the Steinle family, it did not fit his agenda. Who supports sanctuary cities? What about Bush visiting the Ft hood hospital right FT hood shooting, and current President ask him to leave. What kind of MAN does that.
His Sect of State LIED to family members about some video and video maker about Benghazi?
Also was Iraq a mistake, most likely. But did Obama and Hillary learn a lesson, NO, NO, NO, just removed another dictator in Libya. How Libya working out for the democrats?????

[kidrock]

Kid sorry, you did know the news about Kate Steinle, means you watch every news channel, with exception of Fox news. Did you forget our President met and even had a deserter family at White house, he did not meet with the Steinle family, it did not fit his agenda. Who supports sanctuary cities? What about Bush visiting the Ft hood hospital right FT hood shooting, and current President ask him to leave. What kind of MAN does that.
His Sect of State LIED to family members about some video and video maker about Benghazi?
Also was Iraq a mistake, most likely. But did Obama and Hillary learn a lesson, NO, NO, NO, just removed another dictator in Libya. How Libya working out for the democrats?????

Sorry but, I don't watch much television especially the news organizations on TV. Not Fox, CNN, msnbc, abc, cbs, they all are biased in their reporting, they all have an agenda when reporting. None of them tell the complete truth but, I realize some of you believe Fox News always reports the truth. Which I have to laugh at but, hey to each is own. Believe I have heard enough on here how Fox News is the one and only. Lol.

Oh I have to agree this administration has mis handled foreign affairs. We should never be in the business of telling other countries how to conduct themselves or how to run their government.

I have said I don't know how many times this administration lied about Benghazi.
They wanted to make sure Obama got re elected and put politics ahead of human lives.
That's why I would never support Hillary Clinton.

[dirtisforracin]

Kidrock, fair enough.

[Clayton_Wetter]

False story.

False reply.

[Clayton_Wetter]

CIRF, I believe the Bush administration knew the intelligence was wrong but, those war hogs wanted to go to war with Iraq at any cost thus the big fat lie. They weren't even in Afghanstan before they started brining up Sadamm. Like I said to Mud, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one because some say it was a big fat lie and others say it wasn't.

As far as Kate Steinle Situation I don't know what your talking about but, I will take the time to look it up. So I can't comment one way or another on that situation.

Please from now on just limit your response as "I disagree" then. lol

[CIRF]

CIRF, I believe the Bush administration knew the intelligence was wrong but, those war hogs wanted to go to war with Iraq at any cost thus the big fat lie. They weren't even in Afghanstan before they started brining up Sadamm. Like I said to Mud, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one because some say it was a big fat lie and others say it wasn't.

As far as Kate Steinle Situation I don't know what your talking about but, I will take the time to look it up. So I can't comment one way or another on that situation.

Read the last sentence of post #14 again. I will be shoulder to shoulder with you if someone ever comes up with the goods on Bush. Until I see irrefutable, ironclad proof he sent our military to war knowing there weren't WMD's in Iraq I am forced to give him the benefit of the doubt. I would give the benefit of the doubt to our rapist president and hussein if it were either one of them. I give the benefit of doubt to Hillary Clinton on the Benghazi deal in regards to what happened at the embassy. What I won't giver her a pass for is out and out lying to the families of the 4 murdered men in reference to the attacks being precipitated by an offensive video concerning Muslims. She's a liar and she knows it.

Ok CIRF, I looked into the Kate Steinle situation and the first thing is I feel really bad for the Steinle family what a terrible tragedy. The second thing it just shows how bad we need to get the boarders secured. The third thing is to stop playing politics with immigration and get something done about it.

Now as far as Obama visiting the family probably would have been a good thing to do but, I don't see where he is obligated to do so but, if your going to visit the family's of others who have been murdered for political reason which I believe he did in some of those he has visited if not all then why not take the time to visit the Steinle family. Just shows how damm political things have become.

As far as the head of homeland security he did seem like he had an attitude about the situation and he should have been more sympathetic to the Steinle family. And yes he had to know the Steinle family and what happened. If he didn't then I'm not so sure he is the right guy for the job.

Hussein seemed to be "obligated" to meet with Travon Martin's family. He sent cabinet members to Ferguson, Missouri and helped perpetuate a complete lie with the "hands up, don't shoot" BS. He went to bat for the college professor that had a run in with the authorities. A beautiful 32 year old woman gunned down partially because of hussein being beholdin' to a radical (and growing) faction of the Democrat party. NOT SO MUCH!

We've gone back and forth on here for a while now, Kid, and I really don't believe you're able to honestly square all that in your heart and mind. I believe you look at things a bit more pragmatically and objectively.

[buster83]

of course there was no wmd in Iraq they transferred them all to Syria.

[kidrock]

Read the last sentence of post #14 again. I will be shoulder to shoulder with you if someone ever comes up with the goods on Bush. Until I see irrefutable, ironclad proof he sent our military to war knowing there weren't WMD's in Iraq I am forced to give him the benefit of the doubt. I would give the benefit of the doubt to our rapist president and hussein if it were either one of them. I give the benefit of doubt to Hillary Clinton on the Benghazi deal in regards to what happened at the embassy. What I won't giver her a pass for is out and out lying to the families of the 4 murdered men in reference to the attacks being precipitated by an offensive video concerning Muslims. She's a liar and she knows it.


Hussein seemed to be "obligated" to meet with Travon Martin's family. He sent cabinet members to Ferguson, Missouri and helped perpetuate a complete lie with the "hands up, don't shoot" BS. He went to bat for the college professor that had a run in with the authorities. A beautiful 32 year old woman gunned down partially because of hussein being beholdin' to a radical (and growing) faction of the Democrat party. NOT SO MUCH!

We've gone back and forth on here for a while now, Kid, and I really don't believe you're able to honestly square all that in your heart and mind. I believe you look at things a bit more pragmatically and objectively.

Like I said its ashame that Obama would do this for political reasons but, that's what politicians do.

I understand what your saying about Bush and you don't believe it and that's your right but, like I said I do believe it. I believe it was a big fat lie and they knew it. I will say this I will be the first to say I was wrong if I see refutable evidence otherwise but, I haven't seen it.

[kidrock]

of course there was no wmd in Iraq they transferred them all to Syria.

now that I can't dispute. That is very possible.

[mudslinger47]

[QUOTE=kidrock;1981145
I understand what your saying about Bush and you don't believe it and that's your right but, like I said I do believe it. I believe it was a big fat lie and they knew it. .[/QUOTE]

My only point is, it wasn't just "W".... he was surrounded by Democrats too, all 77 in the Senate and all but 17 in the house...you can't continue to blame "W" because all had the same information as "W" did....

That's my only point, whether your in favor of the war or not is totally a personal decision..

[kidrock]

My only point is, it wasn't just "W".... he was surrounded by Democrats too, all 77 in the Senate and all but 17 in the house...you can't continue to blame "W" because all had the same information as "W" did....

That's my only point, whether your in favor of the war or not is totally a personal decision..

I understand what your saying. I'm not going to blame anyone for voting to go to war from what they were told.

[CIRF]

Like I said its ashame that Obama would do this for political reasons but, that's what politicians do.

I understand what your saying about Bush and you don't believe it and that's your right but, like I said I do believe it. I believe it was a big fat lie and they knew it. I will say this I will be the first to say I was wrong if I see refutable evidence otherwise but, I haven't seen it.

So, are you saying you're giving a pass to hussein and his a$$hole DHS secretary in the Steinle affair? Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds a whole lot like you're overlooking what they both did because ya' think all politicians do it. Justifying horrible behavior by pointing out horrible behavior isn't a justification at all. It's a bit of a cop out.


What evidence do you have that Bush knew there were no WMD's and just wanted to spend a whole bunch of the country's money with no regard to thousands of military personal maimed and killed. I'm curious. Please provide credible links.

[kidrock]

So, are you saying you're giving a pass to hussein and his a$$hole DHS secretary in the Steinle affair? Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds a whole lot like you're overlooking what they both did because ya' think all politicians do it. Justifying horrible behavior by pointing out horrible behavior isn't a justification at all. It's a bit of a cop out.


What evidence do you have that Bush knew there were no WMD's and just wanted to spend a whole bunch of the country's money with no regard to thousands of military personal maimed and killed. I'm curious. Please provide credible links.

Politician do these things for mostly political reasons. I'm not sure where the president no matter who it is is obligated to visit any of them but, I would have figured he would have visited the Steinle family since he was pushing immigration. Like I said I feel bad for the Steinle family because this should have never have happened.

As far as giving you creditable sources on the Iraq war you have to be kidding right. No matter what sources I site you guys will discredit like always so, no I won't be doing that. Remeber your guys source is the only source that matters.
I have watch ss12 give sources on some of the things he's talking about and always well that's not credible source. So won't be doing that anymore. Just not worth my time. Like I said we will have to agree to disagree and move on.