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  • mudslinger47
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 3452

    #16
    Originally posted by plunks7 View Post
    Who and how many did he hire to build his buildings and get fined? How many women can you beat up, rape or throw around before you go to jail? How many Students are filing charges against Donald for a fake college? How many people did he put out of work because he closed a lot of his business's. How is he going to do ANYTHING when both parties hate him. Everything and anything he has to say to the Senate will be REJECTED. How will he deal with that failure. I will tell you, He would have a helmet, straight jacket on in a Padded room. And one of his cronies wiping his Ass the rest of his Life. If I had to choose between one, which it sounds very likely. I also will not VOTE!!!!!
    Put up or shut up... show me the record.... don't bother, you can't.... and please don't vote, you're not bright enough...

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16407

      #17
      Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
      She's one of the smartest women on the planet. So Kid, I take it your voting for Bernie??? What about November??? If the MEDIA would do its job of reporting, just reporting the news, she wouldn't have run in the first place. Folks ROME is burning, and unfortunately way too many folks across the world are not even paying attention.
      Love it when Dems and liberals blame Bush for ISIS and this and that. My reply is why did the smartest man (pres) and smartest women (Hillary), support military action in Libya???? How's Libya working out. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
      Well your assumption is wrong. If I vote for anyone it will be Kasich.

      For anyone to think that Bush is not part to blame for Isis really doesn't understand what happened. Who was President when the United States invaded Iraq? Yep you got it Bush. If the U.S. Had not invaded Iraq there is no way Sadamm would have allowed Isis to be formed. Yes I get the argument about Obama fault in this by withdrawing the troops and I can't dispute that so, in reality they both are to blame.

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      • balljoint
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1774

        #18
        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
        Unbelievable I mean really what's wrong with that lady
        Originally posted by kidrock View Post
        Unbelievable I mean really what's wrong with that lady
        She obviously has ulterior motives; no politicians are "stupid". Rather we just don't understand "why".

        This may explain Mrs Clinton's antics and the creation of ISIS:



        THE P80 GROUP FOUNDATION: AN INTRODUCTION

        The Beginning
        The origins of the P80 began with the inspiration of HRH Prince Charles, who believed that the world's largest pension and sovereign wealth funds could be encouraged to increase the level of their investments which could benefit the climate and/or sustainable development. The concept quickly received the support of other global leaders such as Nobel Prize winner Al Gore.

        Thus, HRH convened and hosted meetings of large pension and sovereign wealth fund leaders beginning in late 2007. Even the early meetings represented over $2 trillion in investment capacity.

        Additional meetings were held in 2008 and 2009. The Group became known as the P8 (Pensions 8) and the University of Cambridge Programme for Sustainability Leadership (CPSL) provided the infrastructure and staffing for the P8 Group. Although known as the P8, the actual number of large funds participating grew with each meeting, until there were many more than the original 8 funds.

        Growth and creation of the P80 Group
        In 2010, HRH and the P8 Group members posited there might be many more pension and sovereign wealth funds globally wishing to join in the effort. A decision was made to widen the reach to include other funds from all over the world and to create an expanded "P80 Group".

        Examples of other funds which agreed to join the process included the National Pension Service of Korea, the world's third largest pension fund today and Khazanah Nasional, the investment holding arm of the Government of Malaysia. The first meeting of the P80 Group was hosted by the National Pension Service of Korea and took place in Seoul in June of 2010. It was at this meeting that Former President Clinton formally pledged his support to the work of the P80 Group stating:

        “You are empowered to make a major difference in the future of our planet. Your investments can encourage sustainable economic growth, strengthen global stability, and improve world health and food supply...technologies have already been developed which can create opportunities for growth and tackle climate change, however many companies and projects lack the access to capital needed to implement their strategies. Developing public-private partnerships that identify market-based approaches to accelerate the deployment of clean technologies is central to the work of my Foundation...and the Clinton Global Initiative.”

        Early work
        The first P8 Summit, held in November 2007, discussed the issue of climate change and its impact on the pensions sector. Subsequent Summits held in July 2008, March 2009, October 2009 and February 2011 allowed the pension funds to explore the requirements of public–private partnerships in investment opportunities.

        Shortly after the third Summit, the first green bond investment ($300 million) with the World Bank was announced by California State Treasurer Bill Lockyer. Discussions also led to the development of pioneering funds by the Asian Development Bank (Climate Public Private Partnership Fund) and the International Finance Corporation (Climate Catalyst Fund).

        Mission Statement
        “Our mission is to lead and guide the world toward a path of greater sustainability by developing financial instruments that deploy capital into technology that tackle global challenges.”

        The P80 Group Foundation
        The P80 Group Foundation was formed to manage and support the activities associated with delivering this mission. The Foundation is composed of individuals and entities who have pledged to serve as ‘”Friends” of the P80 Group.

        Goal
        The goal of the P80 Group and the Foundation is to bring about a more rapid growth in investments that address climate change and sustainable development resource shortages. We are convinced, even left alone, these investments will trend up over time. Thus, the role we wish to fulfill is to serve as a catalyst to speed up and strategically support this trend.

        Impediments to low carbon investments in developing countries

        The developing countries have emerged as one of the crucial grounds on which the climate war will be won or lost. The Asian Development Bank and the P80 Group, therefore, performed a study of the key impediments to low carbon investments in developing Asia as perceived by large pension fund investors. The main obstacles facing private sector financial institutions who seek large scale investments are:

        Global market failures
        •Environmental externalities not properly priced
        •Carbon market pricing in early stage}\
        •Subsidies for hydrocarbon energy


        Perceived risks
        •Political, regulatory, technology, execution, currency, governance risks

        •Inadequate market incentives (e.g. fee-in-tariffs)

        •Risk mitigation tools underdeveloped


        Poor investment infrastructure
        •Lack of specialist professionals

        •Lack of high-quality deals

        •Underdeveloped business environment


        Information and knowledge gap
        •Lack of investment research

        •Absence of qualified intermediaries

        •Absence of success / proof of concept


        High transaction costs
        •Small portfolio weighting

        •Diseconomies of small scale

        •Fear of the unfamiliar


        Solution concepts
        At the P80 meeting in the summer of 2010, the Asian Development Bank and International Finance Corporation unveiled plans to create funds or "fund of funds" which would take investments from the ADB and other public sector entities and co-mingle this capital with large investments from P80 members. The public-private partnership idea was warmly received by the P80 Group as many participants thought this framework capable of delivering a solution concept to the barriers described above.

        The Asian Development Bank is now in the process of establishing the Climate Public Private Partnership Fund (CP3) which focuses on developing Asia and the International Finance Corporation is developing the Climate Catalyst Fund (CCF) which has a global reach. In both instances, the anchor public sector partner is the Government of the United Kingdom.

        The African Development Bank and Inter-American Development Bank are also actively engaged in this arena. The next step will be to convene an organizational meeting with large funds from Latin America (including Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean). MENA, Eastern Europe and Africa are regions which will be studied and targeted in the near future.

        The P80 impact
        Overcoming the global challenges of climate change and sustainable development will require the mobilization of large amounts of capital. The public sector, already strained by the global financial crisis, is incapable of handling these problems on its own; it needs to receive “help” from the private sector, especially pension funds and sovereign wealth funds.

        As evidenced by the recent endorsement of the Club de Madrid, many global leaders believe the P80 Group embodies an important opportunity to create an immediate and meaningful impact to address not only global climate issues but also the challenges related to economic development, health and global stability. These global leaders also believe that the positive impact can be achieved while at the same time providing highly attractive risk-adjusted returns to investors.

        Activities of the P80 Group Foundation
        The activities of the Foundation include:
        1.Organizing and managing the P80 Group and its strategic supporters.

        2.Identifying and structuring investment opportunities for pension funds, SWFs and MDBs belonging to the P80 Group. The Climate Public Private Partnership Fund and the Climate Catalyst Fund are good early examples of this activity.

        3.Creating and managing strategic partnerships with key institutions, such as Club de Madrid, Clinton Global Initiative, World Economic Forum, Global Green Growth Institute and others

        To summarize, London was broke and needed to steal public pension funds to generate income for use in robbing Ukraine, Syria , Libya, etc of their natural resources.

        additional info:



        claims UK needs more resources:

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        • kidrock
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 16407

          #19
          So if Sadamm was still in power do think Isis would have been created?

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          • balljoint
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1774

            #20
            The Context to forming ISIS http://www.clubmadrid.org/en/program...he_mena_region

            In the Mediterranean and Middle East region, numerous inter-governmental and civil society initiatives have affirmed social and political rights and identified the need for increased civic participation as essential for modernization. However, the reality in the region has not matched the standards promulgated. States of emergency, anti-terrorism laws and authoritarian governments have limited the formation of, and participation in, civil society organizations and political parties and processes.

            Throughout the region, laws that govern civil society organizations’ registration processes and provide (limited) space for organizations to work are generally prohibitive. Civil society organizations deemed to be engaged in work that is political are those most likely to be banned, restricted, monitored and censored. While a country may claim to have a vibrant civil society environment, reflected by the number of registered organizations, these are usually not working in the field of human rights and democracy. Institutions engaged in such work face cumbersome registration processes, restrictions on receiving international funding, limitations on activities, harassment by security forces, and censorship in the local press. Because political pluralism and social freedoms are not guaranteed, civil society has worked to fill this void, and as a result come under intense scrutiny and is up against many obstacles. Authoritarian regimes and non-democratic governments work to contain opposition and freedoms in order to protect their own positions and power, and civil society actors increasingly are marginalized, resulting in societal dysfunction. While in the short term this may be manageable, in the long term coupled with increasing income disparity and lack of basic needs and services, this will result in a more disenfranchised citizenry, less willing to cooperate with their governments and rulers, and likely a larger and more radicalized opposition.

            The Project

            As social demands for democratic participation increasingly call into question current government structures, this initiative, funded by the European Commission and the UN Democracy Fund, addressed the need for consensus and a shared vision for the advancement of ongoing reform processes.

            Launched in February 2007, in response to an expressed need for greater efforts towards and in support of democratic dialogue and freedom of association in the Arab world, this project aimed to strengthen discourse and association in the Middle East and North Africa. Calling on the leadership experience of its Members and working with local partners promoting the constructive engagement of civil society, the Club de Madrid provided strategic counsel to leaders for reform in Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia and Egypt. The Club de Madrid did not impose external ideals, but rather worked with local partners to discreetly nurture and facilitate the construction of discourse for democratic reform and development. Responding to the political context and efforts towards reform in each country, Club de Madrid members – leaders who have faced similar leadership challenges, many directly related to the democratic transformation of their own countries – shared relevant experiences and provided counsel. By supporting dialogue between authorities and civil society, Club de Madrid worked to transcend current constraints and create important policy frameworks and goals to build a shared vision of society, and advance and better protect citizen’s rights.

            Former Prime Ministers and Presidents involved: Club of Madrid Members Abdulkarim Al Eryani (Yemen), Al Imam Sadig Al Mahdi (Sudan), Valdis Birkavs (Latvia), Kjell Magne Bondevik (Norway), Philip Dimitrov (Bulgaria), Felipe González (Spain), Lionel Jospin (France), Wim Kok (the Netherlands), Zlatko Lagumdzija (Bosnia & Herzegovina), Jorge Quiroga (Bolivia), Petre Roman (Romania), Jennifer Shipley (New Zealand), Cassam Uteem (Mauritius); and Eduardo Rodríguez Veltzé (Bolivia).

            The Club of Madrid has worked with: Center for Strategic Studies at the University of Jordan, Bahrain Center for National Studies, Maroc 2020 (Morocco), the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies (Saudi Arabia), the Al Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies (Egypt), and FRIDE: Fundación para las Relaciones Internacionales y el Diálogo Exterior (Madrid, Spain).

            Project Activities and Recommendations


            Project Achievements and Challenges

            Read the Project Final Publication


            Next Steps

            Project participants expressed a need for continued engagement in the region, and specifically for the Club de Madrid to remain engaged; and identified the following recommended next steps: a) more capacity building activities for civil society organizations; b) a continued push for project findings and recommendations to become actual policy and practice; c) increased dissemination of recommendations; d) continued efforts to shake-up the current political stagnation; e) continued push for the institutionalization of dialogue; f) coordination with other organizations working in the same area for greater effectiveness (particularly the Friedrich Naumann-Stiftung für die Freiheit and the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Network); and g) further provision of information on successful and politically and culturally relevant national transition processes, including the Spanish transition.

            The Club de Madrid is currently seeking follow on funding and support for continued regional programming and hopes to commence its second phase of project activities early 2010.

            Bill Clinton is a club Madrid member:

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            • kidrock
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 16407

              #21
              https://www.quora.com/Is-George-Bush...sible-for-ISIS
              Instead of shifting blame for ISIS’s rise, the West and its allies should look in the mirror.

              A college student in Reno started a conversation that rippled across Twitter, Facebook, and any number of American dinner tables. Who is actually right?


              These articles blame both bush and obama

              Oh yes I know the dictator is going to come on here and say the sources are garbage but, to ignore they both are to blame is just plain foolish.
              Last edited by kidrock; 03-29-2016, 03:58 PM.

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              • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 7658

                #22
                Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                Now this is funny right here!!



                Monica says hillary wont get her vote cuz the last clinton in office left a bad taste in her mouth!
                THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                • a25rjr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 3774

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
                  Monica says hillary wont get her vote cuz the last clinton in office left a bad taste in her mouth!
                  which Clinton! lol......I think hilLIARy can go either way!
                  Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #24
                    Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                    https://www.quora.com/Is-George-Bush...sible-for-ISIS
                    Instead of shifting blame for ISIS’s rise, the West and its allies should look in the mirror.

                    A college student in Reno started a conversation that rippled across Twitter, Facebook, and any number of American dinner tables. Who is actually right?


                    These articles blame both bush and obama

                    Oh yes I know the dictator is going to come on here and say the sources are garbage but, to ignore they both are to blame is just plain foolish.
                    Once again as always of course, all of the sources are left wing politically biased hit pieces. Fabricated BS!!! The Detector his once again called out the biased poster and the biased posts!!! Good deal!!!

                    Man a human being has to be pretty dim to not smell these sites out for what they are.

                    And yes the sources are garbage once again as usual.
                    Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 03-30-2016, 03:47 PM.

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                    • dirtMAN007
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 5691

                      #25
                      Do you realize how many times in the past the hnic has taken credit for " ending the war in Iraq " but when asked if he shouldd have considered it a bit more before withdrawing all of our troops he states" do you think that was my doing " !!!!! Well who the he!! Else's doing could it possibly have been ?
                      Last edited by dirtMAN007; 03-29-2016, 08:19 PM.

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                      • a25rjr
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 3774

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dirtMAN007 View Post
                        Do you realize how many times in the past the hnic has taken credit for " ending the war in Iraq " but when asked if he shouldd have considered it a bit more before withdrawing all of our troops he states" do you think that was my doing " !!!!! Well who the he!! Else's doing could it possibly have been ?
                        As Alex would say.....and the answer is.....its W's fault! How in the heck can Bush be blamed for creating ISIS. I guarantee you, there would be no ISIS if our troops were still there. Makes you wonder if Obummer has a secret agenda.
                        Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                        • kidrock
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 16407

                          #27
                          Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                          As Alex would say.....and the answer is.....its W's fault! How in the heck can Bush be blamed for creating ISIS. I guarantee you, there would be no ISIS if our troops were still there. Makes you wonder if Obummer has a secret agenda.
                          And there would be no Isis if we never invaded Iraq. Sadamm would have never allowed that to happen but, I guess some either forget about that or want to forget about that.

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                          • Clayton_Wetter
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 16671

                            #28
                            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                            And there would be no Isis if we never invaded Iraq. Sadamm would have never allowed that to happen but, I guess some either forget about that or want to forget about that.


                            Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 03-30-2016, 05:01 PM.

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                            • ss12
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3732

                              #29
                              Obama's daily approval rate is up to 50%.

                              Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                              • old fan
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 4191

                                #30
                                you mean there is that many stupid people out there now here is a real joke http://www.gallup.com/poll/187922/cl...campaign=tiles
                                Last edited by old fan; 03-30-2016, 05:23 PM.

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