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  • kidrock
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 16407

    #76
    CIRF, im not saying it should be done all I'm saying is it would be nice if it could be done.

    My son is working 40 hours a week and going to college at nights and is paying for his own classes and books

    Yeah we would rather give subsides to the big corporations because they need it so bad LAMO!!
    Last edited by kidrock; 04-01-2016, 12:25 PM.

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    • CIRF
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 8122

      #77
      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
      CIRF, im not saying it should be done all I'm saying is it would be nice if it could be done.

      My son is working 40 hours a week and going to college at nights and is paying for his own classes and books

      Yeah we give subsides to the big corporations because they need it so bad LAMO!!
      As I said, I would have loved it if my degree had cost me little or nothing but I'm not sure I'd have learned as much as I did about some things that can't be learned from books, labs or taking exams. On second thought I am SURE I would NOT have learned those lessons nearly as well.

      Good for your son!! Take it from someone who knows, down the line he'll appreciate that degree hanging on the wall more with each passing year given the circumstance in which he earned it. I'm going to take a guess that your son's accomplishments will mean more to you as a parent as a result of his hard work and commitment, as well.

      I can't dispute what you say in regards to the huge corporation and farm subsidies. I support subsidies to the big corporations insofar as they make good jobs available to the working public. If they're only there only to pad executive and shareholder pockets then I've got a problem with that, too. Just to be clear, having said that I'm a staunch and unrepentant capitalist in spite of my last statement.

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      • Clayton_Wetter
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 16671

        #78
        Originally posted by mud duck View Post
        What happened to the moderate way of thinking and Independents? Politicians that could somewhat work both aisles?? and were concerned for the better of the country even if it wasn't exactly what they wanted. The tea party came along and went completely off the charts to the right on everything with their hate for the current President and then the left took offense and ran clear to the left? The majority of people are in the center category!! Why can't the right and left learn this? This is exactly why we have the current candidates. I doubt whoever wins this mess, that things will be truly "great again"! If you truly believe that slogan, buy some stock in the Trump college or his resorts?
        Communism has destroyed moderate thinking as they have also destroyed the Democrat party.

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        • mud duck
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 674

          #79
          Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
          Communism has destroyed moderate thinking as they have also destroyed the Democrat party.
          CW, the Republicans are just as guilty if not even more more for making a mess of things. My point, your way is not the perfect way! And the hard left is not it either!! There has to be a middle ground. Do you really think a guy like Ted Cruz or Bernie are going to bring sides even close together to get things done ? I won't even bring Donald in on this and your side can't stand Hillary. So, no matter what she would do, it would never be excepted from the right. Come November, is there really any reason to vote for these 4?

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          • ss12
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3730

            #80
            As far as education goes what we had 60 years ago was sufficient. You received a high school diploma and you could get a manufacturing job anywhere. You have to adapt to changing times. Now that there are no more manufacturing jobs you almost need a college degree to get a decent job. We should be investing in our education for our future. I'm not saying everybody gets to go to college. Student should be evaluated in their sophomore year in high school. Those who score good enough get go to college and the ones that don't go to a trade school. To tax payer pay for this? Yes we pay for k-12 now 4 more years is acceptable. Both of my daughters went to college and they help us pay their way. Both received job after they graduated. We are very fortunate that I had a good paying union job and with promotions that came at the right time to help pay for their college. I understand that we are 20 trillion dollars in debt but a lot of that is because of unnecessary wars and how are monetary system works.
            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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            • mudslinger47
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 3452

              #81
              Originally posted by ss12 View Post
              So mud what do you think about the conversation between Trump and Reince Priebus was about on 3-31-16 ?
              Trumps doing what Trump does, he's deal making.... With the GOP, tell them what they want to hear... they've done that to us for decades, and never have come through yet...

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              • mudslinger47
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 3452

                #82
                Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                CIRF, im not saying it should be done all I'm saying is it would be nice if it could be done.

                My son is working 40 hours a week and going to college at nights and is paying for his own classes and books

                Yeah we would rather give subsides to the big corporations because they need it so bad LAMO!!
                Your son will savor that degree and he will succeed... if some one hands you the cash to go all you'll do is put in your time and ask for more.... You aught to be very proud of your son!!!

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                • mudslinger47
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 3452

                  #83
                  Originally posted by ss12 View Post
                  As far as education goes what we had 60 years ago was sufficient. You received a high school diploma and you could get a manufacturing job anywhere. You have to adapt to changing times. Now that there are no more manufacturing jobs you almost need a college degree to get a decent job. We should be investing in our education for our future. I'm not saying everybody gets to go to college. Student should be evaluated in their sophomore year in high school. Those who score good enough get go to college and the ones that don't go to a trade school. To tax payer pay for this? Yes we pay for k-12 now 4 more years is acceptable. Both of my daughters went to college and they help us pay their way. Both received job after they graduated. We are very fortunate that I had a good paying union job and with promotions that came at the right time to help pay for their college. I understand that we are 20 trillion dollars in debt but a lot of that is because of unnecessary wars and how are monetary system works.
                  There is no reason to give our kids everything... if they earn it they'll be that much better for it... And time the government gets their paws into anything they screw it up...every time...

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                  • kidrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 16407

                    #84
                    Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                    Your son will savor that degree and he will succeed... if some one hands you the cash to go all you'll do is put in your time and ask for more.... You aught to be very proud of your son!!!
                    Mud, thank you so much that means a lot to me by you saying that. And his mom and I are very proud of him. He has come a long way from a teenager who thought he knew everything lol. Yes I believe he will succeed. I had my doubts at one time but, not anymore. Yeah he told me he will appreciate it that much more by paying for it himself.

                    Thanks again

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                    • old fan
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 4191

                      #85
                      What good is it if everyone has a college education its great to have but everyone had it it makes it less special

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                      • balljoint
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 1774

                        #86
                        Originally posted by old fan View Post
                        What good is it if everyone has a college education its great to have but everyone had it it makes it less special
                        Unless its to Harvard, Yale, Columbia..

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                        • old fan
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4191

                          #87
                          what would make those so special

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                          • ss12
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3730

                            #88
                            Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                            There is no reason to give our kids everything... if they earn it they'll be that much better for it... And time the government gets their paws into anything they screw it up...every time...
                            Making sure they have an education is not giving them everything. A education is essential for being successful in life rather is be a college or a trade degree. Believe me I have seen children that have gotten everything and how they have turned out. There are a lot of good children out that are smart enough to go to college but will never get the opportunity because of their parent financial situation. The government didn't screw my children education from K-12 and the public university they attended were great. Both of my children are successful in life because of their education. I wish for every child to be successful in life and with out a good education we as an society will be paying for these individuals and their children eventually. So you can pay a little of front or a hole lot more in the end. Take a look around yourself right now and looks at all the citizens around you that don't have good paying jobs and how the government supplementing their income or that's the only income they have. I have a friend that travel through the USA and he indicated their are a lot of good paying jobs out their but we as a nation don't have a society with the education to fill these jobs. He indicated these companies are importing people from other countries to fill these skilled jobs.
                            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                            • old fan
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 4191

                              #89
                              https://www.facebook.com/heyconserva...type=3&theater and its not the education its the opportunity my brother has a assoc degree and now or has made more then his proffessors he sent 7 kids to college and lives in a modest 300k home and for people that are getting govt cheese they are lazy period and have no ambition

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                              • ss12
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 3730

                                #90
                                Originally posted by old fan View Post
                                https://www.facebook.com/heyconserva...type=3&theater and its not the education its the opportunity my brother has a assoc degree and now or has made more then his proffessors he sent 7 kids to college and lives in a modest 300k home and for people that are getting govt cheese they are lazy period and have no ambition
                                With a good education comes opportunity. No education no opportunity.
                                Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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