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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #16
    The Indy 500 doesn't carry the weight in the racing world that it once did, that is indisputable. But it still is the biggest and most prestigious race in North America, if not the world.

    Winning it will still make a career and is a life changing victory, even in it's somewhat diminished standing. Winning the Indianapolis 500 will not necessarily ensure a championship, or even a successful season long campaign, but winning it will most certainly heal a lot of financial wounds for the winning driver and car owner.

    J.P. Montoya won $2,449,055.00 by being victorious in the 2015 Indy 500 for himself and his car owner. Joey Logano won $1,581,453.00 in winning the Daytona 500, arguably the 2nd biggest race in North America. If I'm doing the math correctly that's an $867,602.00 difference in the winners share, or around 63% less. Well over 3/4 of a million difference, and that ain't hay in my world!
    Last edited by CIRF; 05-11-2016, 10:02 PM.

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    • mudslinger47
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 3452

      #17
      Naaw... don't watch train races... it git to boring.....

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      • old fan
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        • Jan 2016
        • 4191

        #18
        Montoya did nothing in NASCAR just saying

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        • kidrock
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 16407

          #19
          Originally posted by old fan View Post
          Montoya did nothing in NASCAR just saying
          Look what team he was driving for. Chip Ganassi has been a failure in NASCAR. His teams have not done much per say.

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          • Raceready
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 4737

            #20
            Originally posted by kidrock View Post
            Look what team he was driving for. Chip Ganassi has been a failure in NASCAR. His teams have not done much per say.
            Even Larson cant win in those cars !!!!!!!

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            • kidrock
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 16407

              #21
              Originally posted by Raceready View Post
              Even Larson cant win in those cars !!!!!!!
              Yep your right and that kid has a lot of talent. Enough talent in the right car he would have won by now.

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              • CIRF
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 8122

                #22
                Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                Naaw... don't watch train races... it git to boring.....
                Don't know what you're talking about again, do ya'.

                The last 3 Indy 500's have been fabulously exciting races. And pretty much all 500 miles, too. Not much riding around.

                The 2013 Indy 500 had 68 lead changes among 15 different drivers. 5 lead changes occurred in the last 30 laps (75 miles).

                2014 saw 35 lead changes involving 11 different drivers. 6 lead changes in the final 20 laps (50 miles).

                2015 there were 10 different leaders and 20 cars on the lead lap at the end.

                What's especially gratifying is that the gimmicks are kept to a minimum. No lucky dog, no wave around's, no overtime or green-white-checkers and no bump and run BS, either.

                They all can't be as great as the last 3 500's but hopefully the 275,000+ in the stands will see another very good, gimmick free race this year. I'd say it's a safe bet that the TV audience for the Indy 500 will be much larger than for the NASCAR race again this year.

                Yep, that's some boring stuff, isn't it!! LOL!!
                Last edited by CIRF; 05-12-2016, 09:10 AM.

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                • Raceready
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 4737

                  #23
                  Still sounds boring NOT !!!! You mean that they aren't going to throw yellows for make believe debris every time a car is in danger of going a lap down ?

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                  • mudslinger47
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 3452

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                    Don't know what you're talking about again, do ya'.

                    The last 3 Indy 500's have been fabulously exciting races. And pretty much all 500 miles, too. Not much riding around.

                    The 2013 Indy 500 had 68 lead changes among 15 different drivers. 5 lead changes occurred in the last 30 laps (75 miles).

                    2014 saw 35 lead changes involving 11 different drivers. 6 lead changes in the final 20 laps (50 miles).

                    2015 there were 10 different leaders and 20 cars on the lead lap at the end.

                    What's especially gratifying is that the gimmicks are kept to a minimum. No lucky dog, no wave around's, no overtime or green-white-checkers and no bump and run BS, either.

                    They all can't be as great as the last 3 500's but hopefully the 275,000+ in the stands will see another very good, gimmick free race this year. I'd say it's a safe bet that the TV audience for the Indy 500 will be much larger than for the NASCAR race again this year.

                    Yep, that's some boring stuff, isn't it!! LOL!!
                    I know as much about the "INDY" as I need to know, about like your knowledge of NASCAR... haven't they about killed that style of racing in the US? They got one race a year they can hang their hat on...and it bores the average guy to tears....

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                    • old fan
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 4191

                      #25
                      kinda like the chilli bowl there has been 57 deaths at Indy compared to 24 at Daytona that's including 2 races at Daytona
                      Last edited by old fan; 05-12-2016, 07:40 PM.

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                      • old fan
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                        • Jan 2016
                        • 4191

                        #26
                        Speed TV's show NASCAR Now spent a great deal of time in the wake of Dan Wheldon's tragic crash in Las Vegas analyzing the relative safety of racing. The four analysts came to the basic conclusion that it will never be completely safe...

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                        • CIRF
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8122

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mudslinger47 View Post
                          I know as much about the "INDY" as I need to know, about like your knowledge of NASCAR... haven't they about killed that style of racing in the US? They got one race a year they can hang their hat on...and it bores the average guy to tears....
                          Muddy ol' buddy, what you really "need" to know is what your talking about. As is often the case, once again you don't.

                          The Indianapolis 500 is the largest one day sporting event in the world and has been for decades. It draws vastly more than any NASCAR race, in most cases way more than double. Won't be any empty seats thus no need for grandstands that are painted to resemble people setting in them at Indy! Unlike NASCAR tracks!

                          That is unless we're talking about the Brickyard 400. Hahahaha!

                          All 270,000+ seats are sold for the Indy 500! Will NASCAR sanction a race, any race, that will draw that size crowd this year, or last year, or the year before, or next year, or the year after that? Hang your hat on THAT muddy ol' buddy!! LOLOL!

                          All that without having to resort to gimmicks and phantom debris cautions and still some of the most exciting and enjoyable racing we've seen over the past 3 or 4 years.
                          Last edited by CIRF; 05-12-2016, 09:46 PM.

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                          • old fan
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 4191

                            #28
                            and your point is bigger doesn't always make it better , I will doing like any other weekend at a short track

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                            • mudslinger47
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 3452

                              #29
                              Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                              Muddy ol' buddy, what you really "need" to know is what your talking about. As is often the case, once again you don't.

                              The Indianapolis 500 is the largest one day sporting event in the world and has been for decades. It draws vastly more than any NASCAR race, in most cases way more than double. Won't be any empty seats thus no need for grandstands that are painted to resemble people setting in them at Indy! Unlike NASCAR tracks!

                              That is unless we're talking about the Brickyard 400. Hahahaha!

                              All 270,000+ seats are sold for the Indy 500! Will NASCAR sanction a race, any race, that will draw that size crowd this year, or last year, or the year before, or next year, or the year after that? Hang your hat on THAT muddy ol' buddy!! LOLOL!

                              All that without having to resort to gimmicks and phantom debris cautions and still some of the most exciting and enjoyable racing we've seen over the past 3 or 4 years.
                              And they still have one race a year to hang their hat on....yawn..... and they have to use NASCAR rejects to get any billing....

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16407

                                #30
                                There's no doubt this race does not always live up to the hype but, sometimes it does and the last few years it's been a pretty darn good race. That's what it's going to take for NASCAR for the racing to be better and NASCAR is trying it just sometimes they don't always make the right choices. It seems like their on the right track because the racing has been better this year not great but, better.

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