Nascar-Gimmicks

[Raceready]

Good honest racing for sure ! 2 blocks or 2 miles either is great just like the time Dale Jarrett won Darlington by 7 laps. Let them run. no GWC and caution filled gimmickry! Balls to the wall racing not constant stop and go as if they were driving in rush hour traffic in Chicago !

[CIRF]

That would mean I'd have to be bored to tears for 498 miles to watch two guys go across the finish a few blocks apart... not gonna happen...

If not knowing what you're talking about was a profitable profession you'd be worth more than Donald Trump! And, if one existed you'd be a charter inductee into the hall of fame honoring people who don't know what they're talking about!! LOLOL!!

[CIRF]

Kid, you must have deleted your post concerning NASCAR gimmicks and whiny women but we'll comment anyway.

NASCAR gimmicks are exactly what the word implies. Cheap attempts at gaining the attention of people who aren't necessarily real race fans.

Myself and probably more than a dozen people we know pretty well who were formerly avid NASCAR fans no longer follow NASCAR as a result of the implementation of the numerous gimmicks. Judging by the grandstands at NASCAR races these days those of us who don't enjoy the gimmickry far outnumber those that do. No whining, just pure and simple facts.

[TS FAN]

Yeah like I said the race in the afternoon. believe me I watched in the Afternoon and I watch at Night. I could care less about the format or that no one could figure out what was going on. I was watching the race on the track. I guess I'm just not that interested in that kind of stuff like others. all I care about is the racing on the track any good. I don't care about this gimmick or that gimmick. If the racing is good that's all that matters to me and so far this year it's been better.

The racing was good on Saturday. I enjoyed it. As far as the messed up formats, I just laughed. This is only for fan entertainment, anyway. I was entertained. At least Nascar came out and admitted they messed up. I will take this show over the past several all star events any day.

[kidrock]

Kid, you must have deleted your post concerning NASCAR gimmicks and whiny women but we'll comment anyway.

NASCAR gimmicks are exactly what the word implies. Cheap attempts at gaining the attention of people who aren't necessarily real race fans.

Myself and probably more than a dozen people we know pretty well who were formerly avid NASCAR fans no longer follow NASCAR as a result of the implementation of the numerous gimmicks. Judging by the grandstands at NASCAR races these days those of us who don't enjoy the gimmickry far outnumber those that do. No whining, just pure and simple facts.

Yes I did not worth it, you do know at Dover they still had almost 4 million viewers right so, quite a few people are still intreseted in Nascar. Yes not near the number it once was but, we can't we say the same about indy cars.

[CIRF]

The racing was good on Saturday. I enjoyed it. As far as the messed up formats, I just laughed. This is only for fan entertainment, anyway. I was entertained. At least Nascar came out and admitted they messed up. I will take this show over the past several all star events any day.

The best of the all-star races were known as The Winston. A driver had to have won a points race within a designated time period prior to The Winstion to be eligible. No preliminary race that allowed for someone like Larson, who hasn't won a points race yet, to be included and no fan voting. They drew for starting positions, lined em' and raced. Then they went to 3 segments and it's been downhill ever since.

They've done the same thing with what used to be The Busch Clash which started out as a race exclusively for the previous season's pole winners. When arnhead went a season without getting a pole they made all past winners of The Busch Clash eligible and, like The Winston, it's steadily gone downhill ever since.

Anyone see a pattern?

[CIRF]

Yes I did not worth it, you do know at Dover they still had almost 4 million viewers right so, quite a few people are still intreseted in Nascar. Yes not near the number it once was but, we can't we say the same about indy cars.

Yes sir, you sure as he!! can regarding the Indy Car race this coming Sunday! Be sure and take a good look at the grandstands and infield Sunday. Number 1 you won't see an empty seat (unlike at Cup races), and number 2 you might see me and my wife among the 300,000 that will be in attendance! LOL!

And it's a safe bet that the TV ratings will be substantially higher than the Dover Cup race.

[kidrock]

Yes sir, you sure as he!! can regarding the Indy Car race this coming Sunday! Be sure and take a good look at the grandstands and infield Sunday. Number 1 you won't see an empty seat (unlike at Cup races), and number 2 you might see me and my wife among the 300,000 that will be in attendance! LOL!

And it's a safe bet that the TV ratings will be substantially higher than the Dover Cup race.

what about the rest of the year?

[drano]

All-Star TV ratings 1.7% down 19% from last year lowest TV rating of the season so far.

[kidrock]

All-Star TV ratings 1.7% down 19% from last year lowest TV rating of the season so far.

Not good thats for sure but, really this race has become pretty boring to watch the last few years.
make the racing better and some fans will come back. Lets face it Nascar will never be what it once was but, Indy cars went down this road and still hasnt recovered. At least it looks the Indy 500 is starting to rebound and why because the race the last 3 years has been better plus it's the 100th year

[CIRF]

what about the rest of the year?

Since Indy Car quit racing at chitcagoland I don't attend any other Indy Car race besides Indianapolis. We only make an appoint to watch Phoenix, Texas, Pocono and especially Iowa. We're about 4 hours from Iowa Speedway and we've seriously contemplated going there for the Indy Car weekend but I have the potential to be occupied with business given the race weekend is July 9th & 10th. The Indy Cars draw a good crowd at Iowa. Not saying it's sold out but it's pretty much full. I have a buddy who has a daughter that loves the Indy Cars and he takes his family out to Iowa every year and he claims it's a great weekend. Hope to find out for myself one of these years.

The road courses hold no interest for us whatsoever.

It's undeniable, at least to anyone with half a brain, that Indianapolis is the crown jewel of all North American racing and pretty much the envy of the racing world regarding crowd size and exposure.

[kidrock]

Since Indy Car quit racing at chitcagoland I don't attend any other Indy Car race besides Indianapolis. We only make an appoint to watch Phoenix, Texas, Pocono and especially Iowa. We're about 4 hours from Iowa Speedway and we've seriously contemplated going there for the Indy Car weekend but I have the potential to be occupied with business given the race weekend is July 9th & 10th. The Indy Cars draw a good crowd at Iowa. Not saying it's sold out but it's pretty much full. I have a buddy who has a daughter that loves the Indy Cars and he takes his family out to Iowa every year and he claims it's a great weekend. Hope to find out for myself one of these years.

The road courses hold no interest for us whatsoever.

It's undeniable, at least to anyone with half a brain, that Indianapolis is the crown jewel of all North American racing and pretty much the envy of the racing world regarding crowd size and exposure.

I agree about the Indy 500 and for me it's the start of the race.

I dont like their street course racing in the least bit but, their ovals can be very exciting.

[old fan]

Not good thats for sure but, really this race has become pretty boring to watch the last few years.make the racing better and some fans will come back. Lets face it Nascar will never be what it once was but, Indy cars went down this road and still hasnt recovered. At least it looks the Indy 500 is starting to rebound and why because the race the last 3 years has been better plus it's the 100th year

what do they expect racing on sat night I am at a short track on Saturday night

[kidrock]

what do they expect racing on sat night i am at a short track on saturday night

thank you lity, heard they are handing out cookies might want to get one lol

[old fan]

sorry no cookies for me gotta get dirt in my hair on a sat night