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  • kidrock
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 16407

    #61
    Originally posted by mud duck View Post
    Kid, I really give you credit for trying to show a different side to things. But, this board they don't want to hear it. They just love to pat each other on the back with hard right conservative talk. If you don't agree with them, then you are just a crazy liberal. Which I know your not. They want to blame all the problems of today on Obama and all the moderates or lefty liberals and can't see the obstructionists in Congress are just as guilty. Plus, if they really want to blame someone they should blame Bush and Cheney! Because when it comes right down to it!! They are the reason we have the current President. When, they think that Trump is actually the one to fix everything it goes to show how far we have fallen of the cliff. And before I get hammered for this, no I don't care for Hillary. But she won't do as much harm to the country as him. So, you just have to take the lesser of the two evils.
    First of thanks, I see you try and do the same thing and I knew when I first started seeing your name appear and what you were saying I knew they were going to attack you like a pack of wolves. It's just what they do but, it doesn't stop me. And yes I'm not a hardcore liberal, like I said I'm more of a moderate but, on here you can't be they label you as a liberal when they don't like what you have to say but, I realize that's just what they like to do and I ignore it now. I guess it's like raising a child and you choose your battles and some I just don't feel like fighting lol..

    Your right there's plenty of blame to go around and (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) head Cheney deserves a lot of blame. Yes because of Bush is the reason we have Obama because people desperately wanted change. I will admit Obama has made mistakes but, which President hasn't.

    I really believe if Trump was to win they will be disappointed in what he says he's going to do and what he actually gets done. I think the Donald is all about himself and gets is feelings hurt quite often and will not make a good President but, if he gets in we will deal with it just like we have every other President before him.
    Last edited by kidrock; 06-14-2016, 04:15 PM.

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    • CIRF
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 8122

      #62
      Originally posted by mud duck View Post
      Kid, I really give you credit for trying to show a different side to things. But, this board they don't want to hear it. They just love to pat each other on the back with hard right conservative talk. If you don't agree with them, then you are just a crazy liberal. Which I know your not. They want to blame all the problems of today on Obama and all the moderates or lefty liberals and can't see the obstructionists in Congress are just as guilty. Plus, if they really want to blame someone they should blame Bush and Cheney! Because when it comes right down to it!! They are the reason we have the current President. When, they think that Trump is actually the one to fix everything it goes to show how far we have fallen of the cliff. And before I get hammered for this, no I don't care for Hillary. But she won't do as much harm to the country as him. So, you just have to take the lesser of the two evils.
      Just so we don't give the impression that we're supporting a democrat or a republican for President, let it be known we'll not be casting our precious vote for either of the major party candidates.

      That having been said, please sight the ways the influence peddling rapist enabler lawyer would be less evil and do less harm to the republic than the outsider businessman.

      I await this perverted logic with baited breath! In other words, this oughta' be good!! LOL!

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      • kidrock
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 16407

        #63
        CIRF here is what leaders of other countries have said about the Donald

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        • CIRF
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 8122

          #64
          To be completely honest, I don't give a fat rats ass what the leaders of other countries think the good Ol' U.S. of A. and/or the people that are in charge.

          I can think of only 2 or 3 countries that would stick by us if and when the chips were down. And really, I don't care what those 2 or 3 think. Canada being the one exception and sometimes I wonder about them.

          I will await a sensible and concise answer to the less evil, less damaging question. It should be entertaining if not feasible.

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          • kidrock
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 16407

            #65
            Sure we can just not care what they have to say but, one day we just might care what they do.

            Really not sure which one would be worse to be honest but, one thing I do know I can't and won't vote for either one of them.
            Last edited by kidrock; 06-14-2016, 04:09 PM.

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            • kidrock
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 16407

              #66
              Another guy wrote this so people would have a better understanding.

              Ok. I'm going to have to fix a few people on here because emotions are high and stupid (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) is being supported.
              First off, most of you have no clue what an assault rifle is! It's not your fault you don't know, I will educate you. An assault rifle is a rifle with the ability to go fully automatic. That means if you hold the trigger down, it keeps going bang until you release the trigger or the weapon runs out of ammo. The first assault rifle came about during WWII with the German Stg44. It had the power of a rifle with nearly the rate of fire of a sub-machine gun (full auto). Inspired out of this WWII era gun came the most well knows assault rifles of all time, the AK-47 and the M-16. Both had the ability for fully automatic fire. When people say they want a ban on assault weapons they think they are banning fully automatic rifles from civilian hands. The problem is that these weapons are ALREADY BANNED! See National Firearms Act of 1934, Gun Control Act of 1968, and Firearm Ownership Protection Act of 1986. Civilians cannot obtain these weapons. They are for military and police use almost exclusively.
              So what is this AR-15 if not an assault rifle? It is a standard rifle that LOOKS LIKE a fully automatic M-16, but does not function like one. It does the same thing as any other standard rifle. One trigger pull = one bang. Most of you are not stupid enough to want to ban a Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle (pictured on top), but cry that the AR-15 (pictured on bottom) is a deadly assault rifle when they are literally capable of the same thing. Same ammo, same capacity, same function. The aesthetic differences between the two are what some want to ban and have banned in the past, which if you look at them, are pants-on-head-retarded to consider deadly features. Some of the things that made a standard functioning rifle considered an assault weapon are:
              A folding or telescoping stock - (does not make the weapon any deadlier).
              A pistol grip - (does not make the weapon any deadlier).
              A bayonet mount - (does not make the weapon any deadlier).
              A flash suppressor - (does not make the weapon any deadlier).
              You see what I'm getting at? The weapons you actually want banned are ALREADY BANNED. The weapons used in these attacks are regular functioning rifles designed to look like their full auto, military counterparts.
              So if the AR-15 isn't more dangerous than any other standard rifle, then why is is the one being used in all of these shootings? Simple. It just happens to be the most popular rifle in the country. It's the iPhone of rifles. It is an affordable, accurate rifle that is easy to personalize because everyone makes accessories for it. It isn't any easier to acquire than other rifles, just more available.
              To wrap this up, If you support banning fully automatic assault rifles, fine. You support a law that is already in place for good reason. I agree we generally don't need machine guns. However, if you think we should ban standard functioning rifles because of things like how you hold the grip or how adjustable the buttstock is, you are an idiot!
              Consider yourselves educated on this matter.
              Last edited by kidrock; 06-14-2016, 05:17 PM.

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              • dirtMAN007
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 5691

                #67
                Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                To be completely honest, I don't give a fat rats ass what the leaders of other countries think the good Ol' U.S. of A. and/or the people that are in charge.

                I can think of only 2 or 3 countries that would stick by us if and when the chips were down. And really, I don't care what those 2 or 3 think. Canada being the one exception and sometimes I wonder about them.

                I will await a sensible and concise answer to the less evil, less damaging question. It should be entertaining if not feasible.
                a few weeks ago Obama said that the leaders of other countries were "rattled" by the republican nominee for pres ! that is a great thing !!! it is about time someone sticks up for the American people and rattles a few cages instead of apologizing !!!! let them be rattled iyt is a good thing !!!!

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                • kidrock
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 16407

                  #68
                  Yeah If Obama thinks countries like Iran, Russia and China are rattled by Trump he's mistaken.

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                  • mud duck
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 674

                    #69
                    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                    To be completely honest, I don't give a fat rats ass what the leaders of other countries think the good Ol' U.S. of A. and/or the people that are in charge.

                    I can think of only 2 or 3 countries that would stick by us if and when the chips were down. And really, I don't care what those 2 or 3 think. Canada being the one exception and sometimes I wonder about them.

                    I will await a sensible and concise answer to the less evil, less damaging question. It should be entertaining if not feasible.
                    I'll give it a try, but I know you hard righties don't want to listen. So, I'll keep it simple. With Clinton, things will stay the same and not much will get done cause the Republican Congress doesn't want to do anything except fight social issues and defund everything else. With the Donald, he gets his feelings hurt by another country leader he will nuke them or want to go to war to get his revenge. If you really listen to him, he's not that stable and his skin is pretty thin!! Do you want someone like that with the finger on the button?? Plus, I might add do you want the country run on Twitter??

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                    • CIRF
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8122

                      #70
                      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                      Yeah If Obama thinks countries like Iran, Russia and China are rattled by Trump he's mistaken.
                      That's one of the very minor things hussein has been mistaken about over the course of his political life.

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                      • old fan
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 4191

                        #71
                        Originally posted by mud duck View Post
                        I'll give it a try, but I know you hard righties don't want to listen. So, I'll keep it simple. With Clinton, things will stay the same and not much will get done cause the Republican Congress doesn't want to do anything except fight social issues and defund everything else. With the Donald, he gets his feelings hurt by another country leader he will nuke them or want to go to war to get his revenge. If you really listen to him, he's not that stable and his skin is pretty thin!! Do you want someone like that with the finger on the button?? Plus, I might add do you want the country run on Twitter??
                        I don't want it to be the same I want the other countries scared sh1tless you know no bowing to other leaders like obummer did

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                        • a25rjr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 3774

                          #72
                          Originally posted by old fan View Post
                          I don't want it to be the same I want the other countries scared sh1tless you know no bowing to other leaders like obummer did
                          Exactly......liberals forget, "walk softly, but carry a big stick"!

                          Obummer has caused America to lose its swagger!
                          Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                          • plunks7
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3274

                            #73
                            With the words, wording, constant name calling and getting his feelings hurt. And the Humpty Dumpty (Trump) had a AR-15 in his hands to get even to get rid of them. That would be beyond a shadow of doubt be the worst mass shooting in America against Americans. Its pretty easy to say things he will never be able to do. Anybody can do it. He will get rejected on everything he opposes. More than likely he would not be able to get the AR-15 because they do a background check. And Humpty Dumpty could not be eligible because he is a psycho or very bad case of head trauma.

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                            • mud duck
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 674

                              #74
                              Originally posted by old fan View Post
                              I don't want it to be the same I want the other countries scared sh1tless you know no bowing to other leaders like obummer did
                              Are military is still the best and will always be the best in the world!!! I don't know what your afraid of old fan. Besides, we can't go to war every time some mud hole country jerks our chain. By your comments and a few of your buddies, I have to ask if you hate our govt so bad, then why don't you move to Canada?

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                              • kidrock
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 16407

                                #75
                                Originally posted by plunks7 View Post
                                With the words, wording, constant name calling and getting his feelings hurt. And the Humpty Dumpty (Trump) had a AR-15 in his hands to get even to get rid of them. That would be beyond a shadow of doubt be the worst mass shooting in America against Americans. Its pretty easy to say things he will never be able to do. Anybody can do it. He will get rejected on everything he opposes. More than likely he would not be able to get the AR-15 because they do a background check. And Humpty Dumpty could not be eligible because he is a psycho or very bad case of head trauma.
                                These words by Plunks are never more truer then now. You are so right with thin skinned Donald Putin will eat him alive and the Donald will get his feelings hurt and help us all.

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