Mike Wallace And Daughter Assaulted And Beat In Charlotte, NC

[old fan]

Nothing to see

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/46312-Things-thrown-on-the-ice.html

[CIRF]

This applies to those that chuck the beer cans and also those that advocate and defend doing it.

[Aces&Eights]

fcg, there are those who believe that the 3 toothed genetic deficient hillbilly red neck drunks had every right, no, they had an obligation, to throw full beer cans at Talladega. All because their boy lost fair and square. Some who would condone and defend the beer can chucker's actually post here, if you can believe that! ...

Talladega, that's all that need be said. This is actually mild for what goes on at Talladega, its actually calmer across the street at the TST dirt track. Talladega Speedway is kinda like Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible, eventually God's gonna have enough.

[CIRF]

Talladega, that's all that need be said. This is actually mild for what goes on at Talladega, its actually calmer across the street at the TST dirt track. Talladega Speedway is kinda like Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible, eventually God's gonna have enough.

You're right A & E. I went to Talladega for the first time in July of 1986 and it was the craziest place outside of the Indy 500 I'd ever been. Indy has since been dialed back a bit but I've been told by those that go every year that Talladega has probably gotten worse over the years.

[TS FAN]

well I got big problems myself. The two abortion babes are in town lying and screaming at the top of their lungs. Then you have the morons that are cheering their every Lie. LOL
They are going to take down wall street? Trump is the problem? Who did he take money from? Who sponsors him? Then the blood sucker babes who live off other peoples money and have never held a job, are going to set things right in the economy. I do not care who you are, those that believe this garbage should take a few economic classes. Please somebody take a bucket of water an pour it on their heads so they go up in smoke.

[TS FAN]

BTW, i wanted to hide this rant so the mods wouldn't take it down./smile

[CIRF]

well I got big problems myself. The two abortion babes are in town lying and screaming at the top of their lungs. Then you have the morons that are cheering their every Lie. LOL
They are going to take down wall street? Trump is the problem? Who did he take money from? Who sponsors him? Then the blood sucker babes who live off other peoples money and have never held a job, are going to set things right in the economy. I do not care who you are, those that believe this garbage should take a few economic classes. Please somebody take a bucket of water an pour it on their heads so they go up in smoke.

BTW, i wanted to hide this rant so the mods wouldn't take it down./smile

DAM!! I would figure for you to be in a better mood today seein's how stewy finally won a race after 3 years. LOL!!

Nice rant though!!

[TS FAN]

I am very happy to get to see Stewart win one last time. I just didn't want to start a slug fest about it on here LOL

[a25rjr]

NASCAR driver Mike Wallace and his daughter were brutally beaten following a Rascal Flatts concert in Charlotte, NC.

3 $hitheads beat them with what appears to be absolutely no motive. They allegedly worked Wallace's daughter over, as well.

What's really disturbing is that the pond scum that did this got out on bail before Wallace and his daughter got out of the hospital.

I was never a fan of Mike Wallace but no one deserves this kind of bull$hit.

If ever concealed carry was needed it was in this deal.


http://myfox8.com/2016/06/19/nascar-vet

Maybe the perps were tired of the Wallace's impersonating race car drivers!

[CIRF]

Maybe the perps were tired of the Wallace's impersonating race car drivers!

I think the days of Wallace impersonating race car drivers are long since gone.

[Raceready]

DAM!! I would figure for you to be in a better mood today seein's how stewy finally won a race after 3 years. LOL!! Nice rant though!!

Thank goodness for the diaper laying on the track that the debris yellow came out for or was it the spring rubber that may have caused a major catastrophe if the track action wouldn't have stopped right then that put Stewart ahead of the real leaders , lol !!!!!!!

[t.nie]

If ever concealed carry was needed it was in this deal.
http://myfox8.com/2016/06/19/nascar-vet

What if the guys who did the beating were carrying concealed? Maybe Wallace is lucky him and his kids didn't run into someone with a concealed carry gun on them instead. Could've been a whole lot worse.

[Raceready]

What if the guys who did the beating were carrying concealed? Maybe Wallace is lucky him and his kids didn't run into someone with a concealed carry gun on them instead. Could've been a whole lot worse.

Or a lot less if Mike was armed !

[CIRF]

It's impossible to fully predict how these things are going to end up under different circumstances. But one thing is for sure, a bunch of drunken low life pond scum white trash hillbillies will probably think twice about a shoot out with someone who is carrying, knows how to handle it and willing to use it.

I'm thinking it would even have been different if there had been as many able bodied guys in Wallace's group as there was white trash hillbillies with no weapons involved. That kind of vermin is usually much more timid when the odds are even.

[t.nie]

Or a lot less if Mike was armed !

So when do you pull a gun out in a parking lot when confronted by drunks? What is your switch point where you know, "hey, this is going to get violent, time to pull out a gun?" Before the first punch is thrown? Ok, do you know a punch is going to get thrown at all?

You pull the gun first, you just escalated the whole thing and could be charged with threatening someone with a weapon. So then, I guess you wait until you get hit. Ok, then pull the gun out, when some guy is punching the crap out of you and you're trying to not get teeth knocked out, protect your kids, etc? How does that work? In the middle of being attacked, you're going to find your gun and brandish it without losing control of it to the thug(s) trying to beat you up?

Oh, and remember, you just escalated the confrontation from some guys being verbally abusive to deadly force on the force continuum, which skips at least two steps if not three on that continuum. You just made it a life threatening confrontation by bringing a gun to what was essentially an argument. And just by carrying a gun you turn any dispute with anyone into an armed confrontation, because you brought the gun.

You should do some "scenario" training sometime and get put into these kinds of situations and see how fast it can escalate out of control and you can get yourself killed with your own gun. Or someone else's knife. I've done it, and it's an eye opener for sure. Things happen way faster than you can imagine.

Oh and one other thing. Shooting someone doesn't necessarily stop them at all. Some people get shot in confrontations and don't even know it. So that gun isn't a guarantee of anything except making a bad situation way worse. There are very limited situations and circumstances where a gun is useful. But it isn't going to stop people in most situations, and in some cases, it's just going to make them even more aggressive.

It's impossible to fully predict how these things are going to end up under different circumstances. But one thing is for sure, a bunch of drunken low life pond scum white trash hillbillies will probably think twice about a shoot out with someone who is carrying, knows how to handle it and willing to use it.

I'm thinking it would even have been different if there had been as many able bodied guys in Wallace's group as there was white trash hillbillies with no weapons involved. That kind of vermin is usually much more timid when the odds are even.

The truest statement yet on this subject. "It's impossible to know how things will turn out" and you could stop there. Period. And those pond scum have no way of knowing who's carrying or not, and drunk they don't even think about it. You're about as likely to get yourself killed or at a minimum get ready for a lot of legal bills pulling out a gun in these situations.

Here's what my suggestion would have been to Wallace. Keep your head down, mouth shut, move away from people who are being loud and obnoxious, try to get near a larger group who aren't drunk or looking like redneck trash, keep your distance and avoid the problem. Don't talk to anyone in a parking lot anywhere, ever, for any reason. Be alert, vigilant and watch people and how they are acting and avoid the loud, rowdy, etc.

Keep your eyes open on the edges of where you are for people who are looking around for a victim. I can't tell you the amount of times I have seen people in public places scoping things out, looking for people who were not paying attention to maybe try and rob them. Just looking for people not paying attention to their surroundings, sizing up who would be a soft target. I've lived and worked in the hood or in inner city areas where people have been stabbed/shot in parking lots, etc, so I have seen a lot of the seedier side of life and the people who commit crime.

Guns aren't nearly as effective as keeping your distance, being aware of your surroundings and staying away from people who are even remotely looking like they might be trouble. That's my take. Like the Bible says "see trouble and flee." Nothing cowardly about keeping yourself and your family safe and in one piece without confrontation. To me, that's just being smart.