Thanks to everyone who has replied or will reply, this thread is getting a lot of attention by looking at the number of views.I have had guys call my shop from other areas that are multiple feature winners with 750 horse motors that say they wish something like this would be done in their area because it cost them to much to race their motors, but they feel they need to have them to be competitive on the bigger race tracks.When you race on heavy hammerdown race tracks with long straightaways, the only thing that takes the big motor advantage away is tires. These G60 tires are not only a hard compound but also have a stiffer sidewall and narrower tread than the UMP or open tire.You only need as much horsepower as it takes to spin the wheels, A harder stiffer tire is easier to spin and therefore takes less power to do so, and any extra power you have is just wasted money.
Making modified racing more affordable in central ky
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i dont blame them for wanting cheaper engines,the racetracks really need to help with this its the only way to get new commers into this sport,and keep every1 else from going bankrupt.Its forcasting there own future.like i said why spend more to race for the same money.put some driving back into these cars.not horsepower!!!
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It is the future of our sport. The modified was designed for the average working man, but yet we have 20,000.00 engines and new tires every 2 races. The racers and sanctioning body's have let this get out of hand, we need to get this tire rule going so there will be modifieds on the tracks in the next 2 years. We are in Bad economic times we need this. I know it's hard to change, but we have to start somewhere to save our sport. No doubt it will take time but it needs to be done. I believe this would help excell AMS series if they had this tire.Last edited by 9modified; 01-26-2011, 10:55 PM.
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I know when I first started racing modifieds in 1988 we were running the G60 tire on leaf springs. I had about 3000 dollars in a complete car (homebuilt and engine parts that were blown up left overs) and went to florida for speedweeks and led a lot of laps, was very competitive.Those days are over now but my point is we were racing for 300 or 400 to win with a 3000 dollar car. Now we are racing for 500 or 600 and have 25000 to 40000 dollar cars because the sanctioning bodies havent kept a tight grip on the rules.I know that not everyone has 40000 in their car but quite a few do, That is about the going rate for a name brand chassis and engine combination, race ready.UMP changed the tire rule in 1992 because they could get more money out of hoosier than they could out of McCreary Tire ( american racer now) and our engine costs and tire bills double or maybe tripled at that time.Now our suspensions, shock packages and other technologies have advanced to the point that we have the capability to use 750 hp at some racetracks (not all) and that is what has made the modifieds virtually unaffordable for the average person. By limiting traction with the tire ( not only hardness but also sidewall and tread construction) we can limit the amount of horsepower it takes to be competitive. I had one popular UMP engine builder tell me that he would just as soon build 500 HP motors than 700 HP engines because he didnt have to buy as expensive of parts to make them live and could build them way cheaper and have a bigger customer base.Another one told me that it cost $10000 more to build an 18 degree motor than a 23 degree but that it added 100 HP to the same bottom end combination. We dont need that in modified racing.Last edited by HEAVY DUTY; 01-28-2011, 10:23 AM.
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All race tracks need to look close at this tire and engine problem,or they wont have to make a rule before long.There wont be any left,like i said before why spend more to race for the same money.Thanks heavy duty for trying to help ever1. i hope some track owners get on here and try to help.
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