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  • MI Dirt Fan
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 8806

    #16
    I'm no expert but the difference is quite obvious from just sitting in the grand stands. He actually had to try both before making a determination???

    Against the rules to have power steering? By God I hope not. Holy chit. I know a guy who who has tons of feature wins and track championships awesome talent and a stout car, started on the front row of a $5k to win 50 lap feature one night and pulled off after 5 laps because he lost power steering. He wasnt gonna wrestle the wheel and endanger other drivers
    Last edited by MI Dirt Fan; 08-23-2016, 08:07 PM.

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    • Thompy_04
      Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 67

      #17
      I was gonna say Charlie. Didn't he drive some of the Knittles sprints in the hay day?

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      • Centeroff
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 1896

        #18
        Sprint cars have so much stagger I could only imagine the sprint car would be much easier to drive because the car wants to go left on its own where a DLM need a little help, especially turning down into the corner. On the other hand the sprints carry so much speed through the corners it would be mentally exhausting getting that baby to go right where you need it. Quarter midgets is as far as I made it so other than logic my opinion is a complete guess.

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        • old fan
          Banned
          • Jan 2016
          • 4191

          #19
          yes Charlie Swartz did and did it well

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          • chad1888
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 28

            #20
            Schatz

            Dont forget rick eckert as well. He drove a eckert trucking number 0 sprint car in the early stages of his career.

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            • old fan
              Banned
              • Jan 2016
              • 4191

              #21
              Originally posted by MI Dirt Fan View Post
              I'm no expert but the difference is quite obvious from just sitting in the grand stands. He actually had to try both before making a determination???Against the rules to have power steering? By God I hope not. Holy chit. I know a guy who who has tons of feature wins and track championships awesome talent and a stout car, started on the front row of a $5k to win 50 lap feature one night and pulled off after 5 laps because he lost power steering. He wasnt gonna wrestle the wheel and endanger other drivers
              man things have changed back in the day power steering didn't exist had to have big steering wheels and bigger arms to muscle a car around

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              • CIRF
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 8122

                #22
                Originally posted by Centeroff View Post
                Sprint cars have so much stagger I could only imagine the sprint car would be much easier to drive because the car wants to go left on its own where a DLM need a little help, especially turning down into the corner. On the other hand the sprints carry so much speed through the corners it would be mentally exhausting getting that baby to go right where you need it. Quarter midgets is as far as I made it so other than logic my opinion is a complete guess.
                Jack Hewitt, who won a bunch of races in both 410 sprints and dirt late models, would take issue with your reasoning in reference to 410 sprint cars being easier to drive than dirt late models. He says in his biography just the opposite. 410 sprint cars also have a much steeper power to weight ratio: 410 sprint cars are required to weigh 1350 lbs. with driver and the engines are making between 825 and 875 horsepower. WoO dirt late models are required to weigh 2300 lbs. and the engines are making around 800 horsepower (I might be a bit generous regarding horsepower).

                I remember Steve Barnett racing a USAC Silver Crown car at Terre Haute years ago but I don't remember if he drove sprinters or not.

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                • slmcrewchief99
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 738

                  #23
                  Tim Crawley has plenty of times. We bought a trailer from him that he home built and used around here. He actually pulled out to Arizona and race. It would haul a Sprint, Late Model, and a Modified. He raced all three many times and won in all three many times.

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                  • old fan
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 4191

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                    Jack Hewitt, who won a bunch of races in both 410 sprints and dirt late models, would take issue with your reasoning in reference to 410 sprint cars being easier to drive than dirt late models. He says in his biography just the opposite. 410 sprint cars also have a much steeper power to weight ratio: 410 sprint cars are required to weigh 1350 lbs. with driver and the engines are making between 825 and 875 horsepower. WoO dirt late models are required to weigh 2300 lbs. and the engines are making around 800 horsepower (I might be a bit generous regarding horsepower).I remember Steve Barnett racing a USAC Silver Crown car at Terre Haute years ago but I don't remember if he drove sprinters or not.
                    centeroff was probably talking about winged cars like Schatz drives as far as horsepower I would say about even

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                    • Krooser
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 3117

                      #25
                      AJ Foyt has 'em all beat... Dirt stock cars, sprints, midgets, dirt champ cars, Indy cars, LeMans and more. His name should have been the first one mentioned.

                      Almost forgot about me.... Got one lap in during the WoO show at Tri- city in 1980... No wing or PS.
                      Last edited by Krooser; 08-23-2016, 11:46 PM.
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                      • cutman
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 1004

                        #26
                        Danny "I'll drive anything" Eichler

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                        • Josh Bayko
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 8734

                          #27
                          Lynn Geisler started off in sprint cars, then moved to late models. David "Slowride" Scott did the same thing.
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                          • 1Jthejuice
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 10

                            #28
                            David Scott did in 1999 and 2000 in Western PA, winning the sprint points at lerverville and finishing 2nd in LM points in 2000 multiple feature wins in both classes.

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                            • CIRF
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8122

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Krooser View Post
                              AJ Foyt has 'em all beat... Dirt stock cars, sprints, midgets, dirt champ cars, Indy cars, LeMans and more. His name should have been the first one mentioned.
                              I agree 100% Krooser, there was very few types of racecars that A.J. didn't drive and win. However, I don't ever remember A.J. driving a modern day generic dirt late model or a mortified.

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                              • muddy mike
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 134

                                #30
                                Kevin Gundaker

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