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[gumby_32d]

Shane Cottle ran a late model a handful of times at Eldora

[ClampedUp]

Lynn Geisler, Tim Shaffer, David Scott from Pa have done both.
I'd find it hard to believe Bob Wearing Sr. didn't run a sprint car at some point in his career too.

[Krooser]

Cirf... You may remember that when AJ wS racing USAC stocks on the dirt there was little difference between those cars and the regular Saturday night race cars. We had lots of ex USAC cars around here including the 68 Ford I ran that started life as a 61 Ford on the USAC circuit.

[06Tireman]

Sprint car legend from PA Keith Kauffman ran raced both a late model and sprint car.. As well as Scott Haus..

[Rollover]

rocky hodges. devin gilpin has driven late models, mods and a non wing spring car at fun fest a couple times now

[th3Swami]

the jet jeff sheppard drove gary stuhlers back up car at the conococheague 100 in the late 90s and sucked at it.

[Necrosis]

Jack Hewitt, who won a bunch of races in both 410 sprints and dirt late models, would take issue with your reasoning in reference to 410 sprint cars being easier to drive than dirt late models. He says in his biography just the opposite. 410 sprint cars also have a much steeper power to weight ratio: 410 sprint cars are required to weigh 1350 lbs. with driver and the engines are making between 825 and 875 horsepower. WoO dirt late models are required to weigh 2300 lbs. and the engines are making around 800 horsepower (I might be a bit generous regarding horsepower).I remember Steve Barnett racing a USAC Silver Crown car at Terre Haute years ago but I don't remember if he drove sprinters or not.

I've worked around Sprint and LM engine shops... A top of the line Sprint engine is in the 870-915hp range, and the best LM engines (RY45) are ~840-860hp on a stingy dyno. Most of your other 4.4 bore spacing stuff is 730-800 because some lousy builders just like to see a big number, which does NOT mean the engine will be fast. Dyno numbers are near worthless.

[jhanson]

hey "necrosis" ------that's good info----you're not even close to dead-----at least it hasn't gotten to your brain yet--hee hee hee---sincerely, thank you for the expertise--much appreciated--
blessings,
jim hanson

[*WEAVER*]

I think Rico Abreu would be fun to watch in a late model.

[CIRF]

I've worked around Sprint and LM engine shops... A top of the line Sprint engine is in the 870-915hp range, and the best LM engines (RY45) are ~840-860hp on a stingy dyno. Most of your other 4.4 bore spacing stuff is 730-800 because some lousy builders just like to see a big number, which does NOT mean the engine will be fast. Dyno numbers are near worthless.

It's been a while since I've been very deeply involved with engine performance numbers. I'm only going by what those that make their living with some of these engines are saying about the numbers they are seeing. If they are wrong then I'm wrong. It wouldn't take much for someone to be somewhat more learned in reference to engine dyno numbers. It appears that you more than fill that bill and I have little doubt you know what you're talking about.

Dyno numbers can pretty much show what the operator wants and for the honest and objective dyno people they are as much of a baseline comparison tool as they are accurate. I run into this being the case with equipment that I own and work with in association to my business. What I use the numbers for is a whole different universe from competitive racing engine numbers, however, the basic comparison premise is about the same.

We're basically in the same ballpark numbers-wise. We appreciate you expertise.

[cutman]

rocky hodges. devin gilpin has driven late models, mods and a non wing spring car at fun fest a couple times now

Rocky Hodges, that's a good one. Greg Staab has also wheeled both

[speedemon3b]

Sonny Smyser was successful in both

[Rollover]

Can anyone answer why sprint cars use mechanical injection and late models use carbs?

[Ryan21mid]

Tim Shaffer ran the Dream last year as well as a few other shows in the 47 that Alex Feree is now driving.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Pretty sure The King Kinser drove a late model some back in the day at Brownstown.

Think that was Phil Kinser. A relative.