New Camaro ZR1

[old fan]

If you think an American muscle car is going to out handle an AMG, you really don't know anything about cars.

afraid you are wrong , the new caddy or Camaro can this ain't your daddys hot rod

[old fan]

Get on a Boss Hoss if you want a real thrill. Zero to 60 in 1.5 seconds is a rush........

I am sure on a road course even more so

[Josh Bayko]

afraid you are wrong , the new caddy or Camaro can this ain't your daddys hot rod

Cars like AMGs, BMW's M series and Audi's S series are designed mostly with the Nurburgring in mind. There is nothing even close to that in the states. Germans pride themselves on race car level handling and Americans pride themselves on mass amounts of horsepower. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way it is.

[old fan]

someone didn't tell the dodge viper that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times

[NormP]

Went too 4 sites and all of them said 3.7 so they say Wrong...
Some of them did like 10 passes to get the 3.7 on a blue moon it may do 3.4 and in some of the passes the ZL1 did lower the 3.5 but on 10 runs it was 3.5

Literally the very first thing that pops up when you google "Charger Hellcat 0-60"

http://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger-srt-srt-hellcat

Don't know how much easier it can be.


Plus it has 4 doors.

In reality I'd take either one over the Mustang, but my preference will be the 4 door MoPar hemi power.

[old fan]

or you could buy 2 chevy ss 's which .5 seconds slower for the same price plus at a bonus a more comfy ride

[Clayton_Wetter]

I am true blue Hemi man through and through for 50+ years. The day you see me spending one penny on a fairy tie or a cotton pony you best be kissing your azz goodbye because the Earth is about to implode! LOL!!
I'd drive a Yugo before I ever wasted my money on those POS. He11 GM had to make their Vette look like a Viper and now Ford has their cotton pony looking like the Charger.

That's your problem!!!

[old fan]

Ford didn't take my money in the form of a bail out.

maybe they should 've

[old fan]

the 2016 corvette does 0-60 in 2.95 seconds dodge and ford lovers

[jeffreymo]

maybe they should 've

Why is that, troll?

[old fan]

BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BEAT (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)

[NormP]

By the way, we're getting a little off topic talking about the bailout money, but all three took money from the government. The only difference is that Ford's several billion dollar loan came from a different fund than the other two.

"Ford requested a $9 billion line-of-credit from the government, and a $5 billion loan from the Energy Department. It pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, retool plants to increase production of smaller cars, close dealerships, and sell Volvo."

They called it bankruptcy bailout for GM and Chrysler, and both paid it back and the government sold its shares of stock. They called it a loan for Ford--supposedly to develop electric cars (how many electric cars does Ford have in production since then, by the way?), but unlike the other two companies, Ford still hasn't paid their money back yet.

Whatever word you want to use to describe it, bailout or "loan", the result is the same--they still took our money. At least GM and Chrysler paid us back.

[old fan]

and how many electric cars will be solid

[jog49]

Today's top fuel dragsters can do 0 to 60 in 0.2 seconds. You can buy one of those too but what are you going to do with it?

Your friendly state trooper

[Cardirt0]

today's top fuel dragsters can do 0 to 60 in 0.2 seconds. You can buy one of those too but what are you going to do with it?

Your friendly state trooper

go 0 to 60 in .02 sec....