Why Aren't the Drivers Also Suing the Tire Suppliers?

[toyracer]

I have a question?
Say the scales were inspected the week of the race.
They had 72 late models there plus other division. Cars crossed the scales countless times before racing, after hot laps , heats, consis mains etc.

What is life expectancy for those scales to remain spot on their calibrated weight with all those cars going across in a given weekend? Is there something in the law that addresses that?

Next point is should tracks write down all weights for a night & have scales checked after racing?Hypothetically what if track did this & the scales were say 30lbs heavy. Should track DQ anyone within
that 30 lb window?

My point in all this is. Scales were there all weekend for you to check. I don't think those scales malfunctioned only when the Zero crossed them.

Bringing attorney's & lawsuits is taking dirt racing down a bad path.

[calverton]

Great post another question what should tracks do if they have portable scales and travel from one state to another

[Barbecueboy]

No, it won't.

Well let's hope not, I hadn't even thought about that angle as an unintended effect.

Clean get cleaner and dirty get dirtier normally in these things.

[Barbecueboy]

Theyre trying to clear their name. I dont see BShepp and maybe Saterlee being cheaters. And itll be up to WRG and the others named in the suit to take legal action on Hoosier if it doesnt go their way. I still dont understand why those results are not out for the public to see

Agree with every single word of this post....

[onlyfacts]

Theyre trying to clear their name. I dont see BShepp and maybe Saterlee being cheaters. And itll be up to WRG and the others named in the suit to take legal action on Hoosier if it doesnt go their way. I still dont understand why those results are not out for the public to see

The results are not public because it not public business.... The racers and owners have the results. Not sure what the reasoning would be for the public to see them. Nothing in this case is Criminal so the public won't hear much other than what either party wishes release.

[calverton]

great post

[jetwind]

like they say the best just cheat better then all the rest its true in almost every sport in some way shap or form throught history graet saying i wish i would had said it first lol

[calverton]

Not a great cheater if you get busted

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

The papers of the lawsuit said it was inspected by Ohio's Dept Of Ag. and stated that they were off 37-61lbs. Based on 2300lbs, that's 1.6%-2.6%. So according to your 1% rule, they are still wrong.

It might have been 61# at 1000, 2000, 3000, who knows? You don't and I don't? So you can't figure a percent. It could be repeatability only or a linearity error over part of the calibrated range. They purposely left out enough information to make any kind of informed conclusion about it.

[calverton]

Dirtcar ump minimum post-race weight of car with driver is 2,300 lbs as weighed on track scale*** eldora policy – one roll off & re-scale attempt only –

[buster83]

in babbs case at scales it was a engine change that bit him the year birky was light he was very furious of the scale it cost him a trip for the A main and these 2 cars 15,0 passed every scale up to that point, then one year bloomer won but the scale was very borderline weighed twice but collected the money.some teams have scales or take them to a nearby scale and have them weighed.the scale thing when you are paying out prize money they should be certified by the state.

[Barbecueboy]

I have a question?
Say the scales were inspected the week of the race.
They had 72 late models there plus other division. Cars crossed the scales countless times before racing, after hot laps , heats, consis mains etc.

What is life expectancy for those scales to remain spot on their calibrated weight with all those cars going across in a given weekend? Is there something in the law that addresses that?

Next point is should tracks write down all weights for a night & have scales checked after racing?Hypothetically what if track did this & the scales were say 30lbs heavy. Should track DQ anyone within
that 30 lb window?

My point in all this is. Scales were there all weekend for you to check. I don't think those scales malfunctioned only when the Zero crossed them.

Bringing attorney's & lawsuits is taking dirt racing down a bad path.

Allowing official outcomes of races to be determined by less than adequate standards and measures is even a worse path.......IMO

[Barbecueboy]

You can roll across it a hundred times.........if it's a pile at crap it's still going to stink.

[calverton]

how is it pile of crap when 72 late models go across the scale and passed but the 73rd didn't please explain that one

[Barbecueboy]

how is it pile of crap when 72 late models go across the scale and passed but the 73rd didn't please explain that one

Because the track left themselves open to this happening.......they didn't dot the I or cross the t.

The newly installed scales should have been checked and certified to be used in commerce for the state of Ohio......apparently according to what the reports say,they weren't.......which is still baffling considering how buttoned up , organized and well planned the events at eldora are.

Maybe Scott was truly light......but with the mess eldora created for themselves by not having the scales certified , we will never know for sure.