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  • Returning to Dirt
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    • Jun 2009
    • 5046

    #1

    Bloomquist/Owens Lawsuit and World 100 Predictions



    Richard and Michael discuss $16 million lawsuits, tire doping and make predictions for the World 100
  • MI Dirt Fan
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    • May 2007
    • 8806

    #2
    If teams get tires at the track from Nascar. How did this happen??? Seems as though this has been forgotten http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ties/70737322/

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    • Barbecueboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 18116

      #3
      Originally posted by Returning to Dirt View Post
      http://insidedirtracing.com/turn-2-b...0-predictions/

      Richard and Michael discuss $16 million lawsuits, tire doping and make predictions for the World 100
      Great article.....thanks for sharing.
      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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      • W2Racing09
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 1691

        #4
        If teams get tires from the track it will really hurt the sport. Mark Richards discussed this in depth on Slingin Dirt last week and it is true coming from an asphalt convert here. How can you expect every team to buy 4-6 tires at every race? Forget about the entry fee there is $600-$900 right there before you even pay for fuel, gas in the truck, pit passes, food and entry fee if applicable. Even at only the big events you can count on slashing your car count by 1/4-1/3 at a minimum.

        Thanks,
        Jeff.

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        • dirtdobber45
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 7226

          #5
          In that article it says and I quote,"the track will institute new rules for this race which will require teams to use tires essentially handed out directly from officials." In the press release from Eldora about the tire rule it never says that. So which one is it? Can you buy from your dealer or at the track?
          If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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          • Cardirt0
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 5271

            #6
            Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
            If teams get tires from the track it will really hurt the sport. Mark Richards discussed this in depth on Slingin Dirt last week and it is true coming from an asphalt convert here. How can you expect every team to buy 4-6 tires at every race? Forget about the entry fee there is $600-$900 right there before you even pay for fuel, gas in the truck, pit passes, food and entry fee if applicable. Even at only the big events you can count on slashing your car count by 1/4-1/3 at a minimum.

            Thanks,
            Jeff.
            1 more time the Little guy gets pushed out of the Big races.. and only the Big money teams will be left...Whats coming 35 to 40 cars for world 100 Wate -5 that have been bared from racing there.. So it be 30 to 35 cars.....

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            • Cardirt0
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 5271

              #7
              The Racing Group that Finds the right way to do this .. With out adding 500 to 600 bucks to race will be the winner...If not Only the small tracks will be the Loser and the fans....A small team that might go will say 600 bucks for tires .. hope my home track is running .. or if it is there home track they be setting in the stands...

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              • Barbecueboy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 18116

                #8
                Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                If teams get tires from the track it will really hurt the sport. Mark Richards discussed this in depth on Slingin Dirt last week and it is true coming from an asphalt convert here. How can you expect every team to buy 4-6 tires at every race? Forget about the entry fee there is $600-$900 right there before you even pay for fuel, gas in the truck, pit passes, food and entry fee if applicable. Even at only the big events you can count on slashing your car count by 1/4-1/3 at a minimum.

                Thanks,
                Jeff.
                So do you think they don't buy a minimum of 4 to 6 tires off the Hoosier trailer or from their tire supplier before they go to a race anyway???( I'm talking about the touring guys)

                No big deal if they buy them at the track from the sanction( who should be able to negotiate a very nice qty discount anyway) or if they buy 6 from somewhere else.

                And for what it's worth, Mark is the last guy that should be griping .......have you ever seen what they come to the track mounted up with in terms of tires?
                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                  So do you think they don't buy a minimum of 4 to 6 tires off the Hoosier trailer or from their tire supplier before they go to a race anyway???( I'm talking about the touring guys)

                  No big deal if they buy them at the track from the sanction( who should be able to negotiate a very nice qty discount anyway) or if they buy 6 from somewhere else.

                  And for what it's worth, Mark is the last guy that should be griping .......have you ever seen what they come to the track mounted up with in terms of tires?
                  and W2 isn't talking about the touring guys. He is talking about everyone else. There are guys capable of making the show that might buy 2 tires at a typical Lucas event.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • a25rjr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 3774

                    #10
                    Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                    If teams get tires from the track it will really hurt the sport. Mark Richards discussed this in depth on Slingin Dirt last week and it is true coming from an asphalt convert here. How can you expect every team to buy 4-6 tires at every race? Forget about the entry fee there is $600-$900 right there before you even pay for fuel, gas in the truck, pit passes, food and entry fee if applicable. Even at only the big events you can count on slashing your car count by 1/4-1/3 at a minimum.

                    Thanks,
                    Jeff.
                    So, all the teams rolling up in their 750k hauler/race cars, hadn't planned on at least 3 new sets of tires for the sports biggest race? That's totally unreasonable! The majority of the top series drivers are already on a deal with Hoosier, so it wont matter to them!
                    Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                    • W2Racing09
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1691

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                      So do you think they don't buy a minimum of 4 to 6 tires off the Hoosier trailer or from their tire supplier before they go to a race anyway???( I'm talking about the touring guys)

                      No big deal if they buy them at the track from the sanction( who should be able to negotiate a very nice qty discount anyway) or if they buy 6 from somewhere else.

                      And for what it's worth, Mark is the last guy that should be griping .......have you ever seen what they come to the track mounted up with in terms of tires?
                      Mark Richards has all the reason in the world to be griping, he makes his living off selling chassis to his (mostly grassroots level) customers who are not the touring guys. If they can't afford to race they won't be buying any chassis off of him. I don't think it would really hurt the house car itself, but I do think it would hurt their business. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who show up to an LOLMDS show or WoO show with maybe a couple new tires and a big used inventory.

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                      • W2Racing09
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 1691

                        #12
                        Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                        So, all the teams rolling up in their 750k hauler/race cars, hadn't planned on at least 3 new sets of tires for the sports biggest race? That's totally unreasonable! The majority of the top series drivers are already on a deal with Hoosier, so it wont matter to them!
                        I'm sure all the teams rolling up in 750k haulers are fine with whatever rule is thrown at them. Its the guys rolling up with enclosed one car trailers or even open trailers pulled by their own personal truck that I am worried about.

                        There are only so many of the hugely funded guys out there and at any given LOLMDS or WoO race half the field is made up of very grassroots level drivers. Even Eldora gets their fair share of low budget teams as well.

                        Thanks,
                        Jeff.

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                        • a25rjr
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 3774

                          #13
                          Originally posted by W2Racing09 View Post
                          I'm sure all the teams rolling up in 750k haulers are fine with whatever rule is thrown at them. Its the guys rolling up with enclosed one car trailers or even open trailers pulled by their own personal truck that I am worried about.

                          There are only so many of the hugely funded guys out there and at any given LOLMDS or WoO race half the field is made up of very grassroots level drivers. Even Eldora gets their fair share of low budget teams as well.

                          Thanks,
                          Jeff.
                          The article is about the World 100, which is the race I was referring to. If smaller teams worry about 8-12 new tires, they probly shouldn't be going.
                          Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                          • Kromulous
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3008

                            #14
                            Its pretty simple, stay home.

                            And only support the weekly shows.

                            Instead of going to Eldora and spending a lot of money on Stewart's, Hoosier, and whatever other vendor up there is selling to line their pockets. All the while laughing all the way to the bank.

                            The fans can control this issue, you just have to make a stand.

                            End of story.

                            Just say no...

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                            • play4kps
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 595

                              #15
                              Everybody here usually cares more about the big guys anyways. They think money grows on trees for these teams. Eldora has no local late model teams anyways. Alms in the cars from oakshade willing to go there. The sport is going to price itself out of existence. I agree about the hi dollar haulers every local team had to buy though. Somehow, some way this sport is going to have to figure how to cap the spending. The one neat thing about dirt racing was parity and seeing locals beat big name well funded teams. That is almost a thing of the past unfortunately.

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