Bloomquist/Owens Lawsuit and World 100 Predictions

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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #166
    Its hard to believe unless you work on tires yourself, on how much cutting and siping a tire can influence it. I have ruined more than a couple by cutting on them to much. Also there is a lot of traction available via cutting etc.

    Only thing i have as a remaining question would be, how do they identify a tire that's to be run at said event? Are they serial numbered? or some other tracking system?

    Most people can never understand on what extent some companies and some people will go to too cheat. I have been involved in some sort of racing for more than 30 years now and i have seen some douseys. and i would be willing to bet this tire system can and will be exploited.

    Example, a stack a 20 tires in the front of the trailer... those belong to ... and were off...

    Just say no...

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14324

      #167
      Originally posted by Necrosis View Post
      I didn't think so before this weekend, but now I agree. We ran the feature on our Thursday night tires, besides a new RR40. And I'll be dammed, they looked great after the 100 lapper.
      Dont know who you help, but Bob Pierce said all the guys who pitted had shredded rf tires. I am not as familiar with LM tires as the 1000 series stuff. But a 1300 will quit working and not tear up on most Ohio tracks on the west side of the state when it gets black. If that rubber is the same, I could see them living ok.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • W2Racing09
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 1691

        #168
        Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
        Its hard to believe unless you work on tires yourself, on how much cutting and siping a tire can influence it. I have ruined more than a couple by cutting on them to much. Also there is a lot of traction available via cutting etc.

        Only thing i have as a remaining question would be, how do they identify a tire that's to be run at said event? Are they serial numbered? or some other tracking system?

        Most people can never understand on what extent some companies and some people will go to too cheat. I have been involved in some sort of racing for more than 30 years now and i have seen some douseys. and i would be willing to bet this tire system can and will be exploited.

        Example, a stack a 20 tires in the front of the trailer... those belong to ... and were off...
        I think an ideal rule is to not allowing siping and grooving, the tires seem to be holding up well enough or even better and a lot of time has been relived. There should be two or three compounds maximum used all over the country for each brand (AR or Hooiser). But they should NEVER be provided at the track by the series. Eldora didn't require drivers to buy the tires there, so those who had untouched tires already could run them, drivers who have tire deals were still able to get tires from their deals, etc. But even more important is that the local tracks go with the same rules (no grooving, no siping) and limiting to the same compounds. That means any tire a driver runs at his weekly track can be used when the LOLMDS or WoO or Ultimate or whatever comes to town.

        If they were going to require tires used to be bought at the track they would need to use numbers just like the asphalt guys do. A lot of weekly tracks have a tire inventory where you can buy tires and keep them in an inventory that stays at the track and you can check them out each week when you get there. Not sure how that would work for a travelling DLM series, short of chartering an 18 wheeler to follow the series around just filled with tires.

        Thanks,
        Jeff.

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        • #FALSuperman
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 2128

          #169
          I was told by someone that has connections with JD and Rumley, that Bobby was the only one to start the race with a certain type of tire setup. The Pierce family rolled the dice and came out looking brilliant. I have no idea on specifics, just that JD and much of the field guessed wrong badly on the track conditions.JD alone pitted 3 separate occasions.

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14324

            #170
            Originally posted by #FALSuperman View Post
            I was told by someone that has connections with JD and Rumley, that Bobby was the only one to start the race with a certain type of tire setup. The Pierce family rolled the dice and came out looking brilliant. I have no idea on specifics, just that JD and much of the field guessed wrong badly on the track conditions.JD alone pitted 3 separate occasions.
            There weren't many variables available to you.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • Bubstr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3734

              #171
              X2 on what Masterbuilt says. Not many choices. Running anything but a LM40 on the right rear was not worth considering, going into the race. That was your only tire choice The choices came from what groove you wanted to race and making the car tighter or looser for that groove and not doing it while leaning on any one tire too much. Called balanced race car. If you can't do that, your not ready for the big league. Don't make it any harder than it is. Then the driver has to take care of his tires. Something that is hard to see from the stands. If you have a ear for it, you can hear it though.

              Something I never thought of was Bobby running threw the high side bumps. Stands to reason if everyone is avoiding them, there is probably moisture there. That means traction and traction means less tire wear, if you can do it, that close to the wall. I kept saying to myself, get out of those bumps. I guess your never too old to learn a new trick. But, how many drivers can do that.

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