Jackie Boggs nailed for tires not meeting benchmark

[Centeroff]

Remember when Jackie won the Lucas show at Portsmouth?? Scott was long gone a late caution came out and Jackie came from 3rd or 4th on top to seal the deal. That answered my suspicion

[Clayton_Wetter]

I agree that these labs could do a better job explaining these results for the fans, but the fact of the matter is, these tests are not for the fans. However, I don't see it necessary to start the everlasting tire lab conspiracy, because you know what? I've seen A LOT of passing results from that lab, and it just so happens, that this time someone failed. Blue Ridge Lab appears to do a lot of testing for numerous sanctions and there for I'm one to put good faith in their work, but the age old argument on "finding another lab" as I've heard people say/write... I don't think people realize what these sanctions are suddenly spending on Tire Tests each year (especially the smaller sanctions). 9/10 come back just fine, but it just appears that this time, someone was caught.

If a driver or team really believes that the tires are legal then they should maybe foot the bill for retesting them elsewhere, and if then found legal be re-embersed their money for the testing.

Then the sanctioning body might say, "best two out of three"?

[billetbirdcage]

There is a reason (or at least a rumored reason) tires are missing something thus illegal, anyone noticed it's never a hard tire, LMAO

[ClampedUp]

I agree that these labs could do a better job explaining these results for the fans, but the fact of the matter is, these tests are not for the fans. However, I don't see it necessary to start the everlasting tire lab conspiracy, because you know what? I've seen A LOT of passing results from that lab, and it just so happens, that this time someone failed. Blue Ridge Lab appears to do a lot of testing for numerous sanctions and there for I'm one to put good faith in their work, but the age old argument on "finding another lab" as I've heard people say/write... I don't think people realize what these sanctions are suddenly spending on Tire Tests each year (especially the smaller sanctions). 9/10 come back just fine, but it just appears that this time, someone was caught.

No doubt the lab is doing its job to the highest standards. But, those standards are only as good as the "bench mark" sample they are given by the tire companies.
If XYZ tire company gives them the "bench mark" sample when the races start at the beginning of the season are they that confident in their quality controls and material traceability that every batch of tires are exactly the same every time??
Or is a new "bench mark" sample submitted after every batch just in case there may have been some differences in materials or production??
What if Joe Racer has left over tires he bought a year ago are they still going to match the current "bench marks"??

[Cardirt0]

I agree that these labs could do a better job explaining these results for the fans, but the fact of the matter is, these tests are not for the fans. However, I don't see it necessary to start the everlasting tire lab conspiracy, because you know what? I've seen A LOT of passing results from that lab, and it just so happens, that this time someone failed. Blue Ridge Lab appears to do a lot of testing for numerous sanctions and there for I'm one to put good faith in their work, but the age old argument on "finding another lab" as I've heard people say/write... I don't think people realize what these sanctions are suddenly spending on Tire Tests each year (especially the smaller sanctions). 9/10 come back just fine, but it just appears that this time, someone was caught.

Will I use too have Faith in the FBI and we all know who Did not go to Jail.. Just this year...HC ring a bell...

[Mudweiser]

Very vague answer. Failed the benchmark?

WHY???

Probably scuffed the numbers off of the side

[ptown]

2 week suspension and loss of points and money.

That will teach him a lesson....lol

[slmcrewchief99]

Most all of us that get checked know it Billet, but the majority on here don't understand or just don't care. They just want to beat up the tracks, the promoters, the tire dealer, UPS on shipping, the labs, and the other racers for "soiling" the track. They are blaming everyone EXCEPT the teams that get caught with an illegal tire. The teams that have them come back "missing" something from the benchmark, need to quit putting their tires in an oven before the mount them and go race. Everyone is looking for an edge. Preheating tires may give you 1 but it's messing with the tire just like adding tire softener. Adding something or taking away something. It still won't meet the benchmark either way. Therefore the tire is illegal.....

[mopar92]

Why? it's not like some cheating is better than other cheating or some sh*t. You either pass or fail. There's no gray area.

So the tech guy disqualifies you. Says your engine didn't pass. You'd be happy with that ? That doesn't make sense. That's not how our society judicial or legal system works. You need know exactly what you are being accused and disqualified from. Nothing hidden.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Dang if this were Bloomquist there'd be 30 pages on this post and 20 new threads made already!
Crickets.........

And 15 brand new user names

[Barbecueboy]

Apples to oranges.

The racers do find out, hence the lawsuit. There's no reason the fans have to.

Why is there no reason for the fans to know?

Wouldn't it lend itself to a little more transparency on the whole deal........if everything is on the up and up and all.

If nothing else it would be an excellent pr move for the series involved.......show the fans the reasons they had to wait a week for the actual race results.

[Cardirt0]

I pay too get in too see the driver that they say will not be there.. I have a right too know...cause if he is not there I dont go, and why he is not there..There Is NO reason not too tell me why...The Gov. Lies too us all the time .. And I am tired of that too....

[Barbecueboy]

Most all of us that get checked know it Billet, but the majority on here don't understand or just don't care. They just want to beat up the tracks, the promoters, the tire dealer, UPS on shipping, the labs, and the other racers for "soiling" the track. They are blaming everyone EXCEPT the teams that get caught with an illegal tire. The teams that have them come back "missing" something from the benchmark, need to quit putting their tires in an oven before the mount them and go race. Everyone is looking for an edge. Preheating tires may give you 1 but it's messing with the tire just like adding tire softener. Adding something or taking away something. It still won't meet the benchmark either way. Therefore the tire is illegal.....

Help me out on this chief........guy pre heats his tires before bolting them on and they come back missing something after the race.

In theory, Wouldn't an unbaked tire be missing something from all the heat cycles it goes through during a long race anyway?.......we don't cheat tires like all you sorry DLM guys supposedly do , so I'm sorry if the question appears a bit sophomoric.😇

[dirtdobber45]

I worked in a lab at a company that made wheels for GM. We would go out and take a sample out of each casting machine every eight hours and out of each furnace every two hours. We would analyze each sample. There were benchmarks but most of the time each sample was a little different than the last. As long as they were inside said benchmarks nothing was said. But some of the alloys were more important than others. If one of the less important alloys was not hitting the standard it was just brushed off from the front office and nothing was said. Now what if that has happened at Hoosier and now its come back to haunt them? Do you think that they would admit to that? I think not.

[dirtdobber45]

Why is there no reason for the fans to know?Wouldn't it lend itself to a little more transparency on the whole deal........if everything is on the up and up and all.If nothing else it would be an excellent pr move for the series involved.......show the fans the reasons they had to wait a week for the actual race results.

Well said as usual BBQ. I believe we have the right to know.