Jackie Boggs nailed for tires not meeting benchmark

[71PRPFan]

His bread and butter is 2000-5000 races. It costs money to race for 1500 I can't see him throwing it away when it's a big part of his yearly income. A drop in the bucket for some guys but not a single car team.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

His bread and butter is 2000-5000 races. It costs money to race for 1500 I can't see him throwing it away when it's a big part of his yearly income. A drop in the bucket for some guys but not a single car team.

You do realize the World is this weekend? Right? Does he not still have Frazier's motor in the car? That is the biggest maintenance item.

I don't think he will miss that $1500 if it equals Eldora success or when the next guy picks up his Swartz by 4B.

[zeroracing]

TJHTA42, I have been told that from sales guys for all tire brands, they have access to get a softer tire compound... I don't know if it is true never called their bluff, but have been told that by guys from multiple tire companies. (The dealerships for each brand).

[King1]

Now if they can just catch the rest of the 4b cars buying their rubber from that garage in Grayson. I saw one of the cars this past weekend was about 1 second faster than the field (I guess he got a fresh load of RUBBER)

[blncfn57]

According to the legal action the lab has two sets of results for the same tire samples. One that states not a match to benchmark and the other as in order. Same lab, same test sample, same test procedure so why was additional test carried out? My guess was to confirm orginal results which obviously didn't work for anybody involved in this mess. If the series heads had any sense a fine would have been issued no results for the weekend and warned that their teams have clearly done something that proves to be non conclusive for this event. Some type of probation while the series and lab works out what was a actually done they could then issues a statement that it will no longer be allowed with any future unconclussive tests result being met with a ban from series events.

Nobody knows who supplied the second sample or if it came from the same tire. That's just what is in the lawsuit. I would like to believe that if WRG supplied 2 samples to the lab and they were from the same tire with different results, there would be something done to figure out what the problem is. My guess is the 2nd sample came from one of the same guys who was deemed illegal and there's no way to prove where it came from. Remember, hoosier and the lab are not named in the lawsuit which tells me the drivers are not accusing the lab or hoosier of making a mistake.

[Cardirt0]

Nobody knows who supplied the second sample or if it came from the same tire. That's just what is in the lawsuit. I would like to believe that if WRG supplied 2 samples to the lab and they were from the same tire with different results, there would be something done to figure out what the problem is. My guess is the 2nd sample came from one of the same guys who was deemed illegal and there's no way to prove where it came from. Remember, hoosier and the lab are not named in the lawsuit which tells me the drivers are not accusing the lab or hoosier of making a mistake.

Some were I read that it was from the same tire and they had proof and people that were there that seen it taken from the same tire...If I can find it back i will post a link...But i have been to 10000 sites the last 3 days with this. so may that some time if at all if I find it back... LOL...

[Cardirt0]

Just called my Nephew he was in the top 1% of his class at the U of I on deans list all 4 years (Sorry had to brag on him) He did lots of lab and computer at the U of I.. he said if it was not from the same tire they would have know right off on the test...

[Bob Hubbard]

I see Boggs is last on the list to qualify ....

[Nasty55]

.Thats why you see the driver gunning it swaying back and fort trying to burn off the glaze..He says if you treat the tire, It will not glaze over..thats why you see some cars fall back on the restart tire dont hook up...He told me if you see a driver not burning off the tire and then takes off good after each restart there is a 50% his tires are DOPED..The tire will not glaze up if its doped...

Not always a sign that a tire has been treated Gary.... a Good driver who knows his car and throttle response can work it where those tires are always in decent shape to be there at anytime.... thats just my opinion anyway...

[Cardirt0]

Not always a sign that a tire has been treated Gary.... a Good driver who knows his car and throttle response can work it where those tires are always in decent shape to be there at anytime.... thats just my opinion anyway...

I use too speak with Erb all the time .. and we spoke more then once on a glazed tire not firing off on the restart .. he said sometimes they just Glaze and will not firer off for 2 or 3 laps and said it has cost him a race or too more then once .. and I know he dont Dope his Tires...Hes just a good guy who does not be-lave in cheating....

[swartzman]

I have worked for Jackie off and on for the last 9 yrs. I can tell you we are very carefull on the tires as to how they get pressure washed, mounted and how they are handled for this very reason.. there is something they need to be explaining to all of us as to what it is.. there's to many people getting DQ'd for this. If it was 1or 2 people i could see that, but we are talking about guy's who can run up front in a go cart. We are not sure what is going on because they are not telling us much either. As far as the 1300's being on the car for some of the big races is the fact that jackie does not abuse his tires by sliding, spinnig them. We have just flat ruined tires trying different ways of cutting or siping them..

[Bob Hubbard]

Boggs

I have worked for Jackie off and on for the last 9 yrs. I can tell you we are very carefull on the tires as to how they get pressure washed, mounted and how they are handled for this very reason.. there is something they need to be explaining to all of us as to what it is.. there's to many people getting DQ'd for this. If it was 1or 2 people i could see that, but we are talking about guy's who can run up front in a go cart. We are not sure what is going on because they are not telling us much either. As far as the 1300's being on the car for some of the big races is the fact that jackie does not abuse his tires by sliding, spinnig them. We have just flat ruined tires trying different ways of cutting or siping them..

Someone had to be told why ..... The people that post hear only know so much .... Atomic had to give some kinda reason .... Someone figured out how to pass the sniff test so now the rubber has to be looked at ....

[swartzman]

Nothing different was done to the tires, talk to Jackie as far as what was told to him.. King1 as far as who supplies jackies tires, that would be poskes. He runs same tire you can by yourself, plus if you would like for them to be siped, grooved, mounted and balanced that would be 20 dollars more per tire at the shop in grayson.

[Bob Hubbard]

Good .... If Boggs wasn't at fault than he shouldn't take the rap for it .....

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Good .... If Boggs wasn't at fault than he shouldn't take the rap for it .....

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