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  • old fan
    Banned
    • Jan 2016
    • 4191

    #76
    what does track scales prevail mean that weekend he had 3 days to make sure it made track scales numbers but he was to lazy to find out plus he had to make weight earlier in the weekend to make the Amain correct

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    • old fan
      Banned
      • Jan 2016
      • 4191

      #77
      again what does track scales prevail bbq brat

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      • cutman
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1005

        #78
        Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
        A rule enforcement that determines if you get paid or not.......I know we disagree and I realize you have called the state, but just don't think it's going to work out for the track in the end.......

        It just seems strange that every scale in Ohio that weighs truckers going up and down the road is certified and accurate ( including the trucks carrying the race cars) , but then you get to the track and all bets are off?

        Again, I know we disagree on this.......
        Lol, those trucks carrying the race cars aren't stopping at weigh stations

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        • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 7658

          #79
          Originally posted by old fan View Post
          what does track scales prevail mean that weekend he had 3 days to make sure it made track scales numbers but he was to lazy to find out plus he had to make weight earlier in the weekend to make the Amain correct

          Did bloomer come up light on purpose for this reason? Just wondering
          THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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          • chopter
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 224

            #80
            Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
            It was accurate. For everyone in the house that weekend. Except for Scott. Things that make ya go hmmmm.
            Everyone exceeding a minimum weight requirement doesnt make the scale accurate.

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            • fastford
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4059

              #81
              d@mn old fan, jimmy has one official blimp on his record and you lump him into the biggest cheater in the sport, ive try to stay out of this , being its kind of between you and the bloomer fans, but i dont think jimmy deserves that label.......

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              • Barbecueboy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 18116

                #82
                Originally posted by cutman View Post
                Lol, those trucks carrying the race cars aren't stopping at weigh stations
                Is that just in Ohio?
                Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #83
                  Sorry if I was mistaken, but I thought depending on the size of the rig or the rig configuration.....similar to blankenships a while back had to obey the same dot laws.......and go through the weigh stations.

                  Learned something new today......
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • Clamped
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 20

                    #84
                    Kudos

                    Originally posted by chopter View Post
                    Everyone exceeding a minimum weight requirement doesnt make the scale accurate.
                    It's refreshing to see someone utilizing critical thinking skills on 4m.

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                    • just dust
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 260

                      #85
                      Originally posted by blncfn57 View Post
                      LMAO, as you stated, you BUY and SELL the car by the weight!!!!! The track scale is used for rule enforcement, not a SALE



                      Your missing the point . The weight matters only because its the part of the equation
                      for payment to the winner . Scales are used for the results . Not for buying anything
                      in this case . They are using the scales in part for total qualification for a winners purse .
                      If you were buying tomatoes , you use it for produce . But when you offer prize
                      money that's a horse of a different color . You are using scales on a different basis . Geeee
                      i don't care who wins . But like i said lawyers will love this no matter how long it takes.

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                      • flagone
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2861

                        #86
                        My thoughts on the scale issue are this

                        Lawyers will argue that by weighing previously on the same scale and making weight and not challenging the accuracy of weight/scale at that time you have accepted the scales accuracy. Scott finished 2nd in his heat and crossed the scales to transfer to the feature. You have agreed by the entry blank contract at that point both by signature and by action. And as there is no specific statue of requirement for auto racing they can argue that the principles do not apply to this case.

                        Regarding haulers. DOT generally does not require registered RVs to stop at weight stations. If the hauler is registered as an RV they can bypass it. I have been stopped in a toter and had to prove that it was an RV. In addition to the registration I allowed the officer to look inside the vehicle and see it's bathroom lol.
                        Last edited by flagone; 10-12-2016, 11:36 AM.

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                        • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 7658

                          #87
                          Originally posted by flagone View Post
                          My thoughts on the scale issue are this

                          Lawyers will argue that by weighing previously on the same scale and making weight and not challenging the accuracy of weight/scale at that time you have accepted the scales accuracy. Scott finished 2nd in his heat and crossed the scales to transfer to the feature. You have agreed by the entry blank contract at that point both by signature and by action. And as there is no specific statue of requirement for auto racing they can argue that the principles do not apply to this case.

                          Regarding haulers. DOT generally does not require registered RVs to stop at weight stations. If the hauler is registered as an RV they can bypass it. I have been stopped in a toter and had to prove that it was an RV. In addition to the registration I allowed the officer to look inside the vehicle and see it's bathroom lol.

                          Case dismissed.
                          THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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                          • chopter
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 224

                            #88
                            Originally posted by flagone View Post
                            My thoughts on the scale issue are this

                            Lawyers will argue that by weighing previously on the same scale and making weight and not challenging the accuracy of weight/scale at that time you have accepted the scales accuracy. Scott finished 2nd in his heat and crossed the scales to transfer to the feature. You have agreed by the entry blank contract at that point both by signature and by action. And as there is no specific statue of requirement for auto racing they can argue that the principles do not apply to this case.

                            Regarding haulers. DOT generally does not require registered RVs to stop at weight stations. If the hauler is registered as an RV they can bypass it. I have been stopped in a toter and had to prove that it was an RV. In addition to the registration I allowed the officer to look inside the vehicle and see it's bathroom lol.
                            Why would you question the accuracy of a scale if you made weight?

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                            • flagone
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2861

                              #89
                              Exactly. You made weight on the scale and had no issue with its accuracy.

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                              • blncfn57
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 2013

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                                A rule enforcement that determines if you get paid or not.......I know we disagree and I realize you have called the state, but just don't think it's going to work out for the track in the end.......

                                It just seems strange that every scale in Ohio that weighs truckers going up and down the road is certified and accurate ( including the trucks carrying the race cars) , but then you get to the track and all bets are off?

                                Again, I know we disagree on this.......
                                Does it not seem odd that this lawsuit over the scale incident was promised for almost a year, yet not filed until the tire deal? Surely if there was merit enough for that alone it would have been filed long ago. I'm not saying he won't win, the court system seems like a gamble these days no matter what the circumstances. Under the right circumstances, if you throw enough accusations at something you may create an image of that person or place in which can win you the case. You can also get the right judge or jury that can win you the case. Heck, OJ Simpson was found not guilty of murder....... lol

                                Scale certification really means nothing in essence. If you have your scale certified using 2500lbs it is only guaranteed to be within a certain percentage at 2500 lbs. When you weigh something that weighs anything but 2500lbs on that scale, the error percentage is higher. So, say the scale at eldora was certified (idk if it actually was or not) what would you want it calibrated at? they race sprint cars that are 1400lbs and street stocks that prolly weigh around 3500lbs and several between. The scale is not going to be accurate for someone in this example, certified or not.

                                Yes, we disagree, but what fun would it be if everyone thought the same way? lol

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