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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #181
    I would expect more funny, easily-circumvented rules to come from this. Especially if you believe in the weight advantage and have tens of thousands to burn.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 7658

      #182
      There wont be much rule change. That was only to get control of the #6 car. There will be another rule change when the NEW SHERRIFF gets a hold of the #0 car.
      THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14303

        #183
        Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
        There wont be much rule change. That was only to get control of the #6 car. There will be another rule change when the NEW SHERRIFF gets a hold of the #0 car.
        Don't be so sure. Lr unsprung weight is the new boogyman like traction control was 15 years ago.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • SLIDING SIDEWAYS
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 7658

          #184
          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
          Don't be so sure. Lr unsprung weight is the new boogyman like traction control was 15 years ago.
          I heard there doing something w rear axle tube or something to that effect.
          THE REAL SLIDING SIDEWAYS!

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          • Stede Bonnet
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 325

            #185
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
            Don't be so sure. Lr unsprung weight is the new boogyman like traction control was 15 years ago.
            Why do they keep insisting on chasing the Boogey-man? He doesn't exist and the rule book is getting fat & stupid while they grope around in the dark trying to grab him... "MARCO!"
            Politically Incorrect.

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            • Barbecueboy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 18116

              #186
              Originally posted by Stede Bonnet View Post
              Why do they keep insisting on chasing the Boogey-man? He doesn't exist and the rule book is getting fat & stupid while they grope around in the dark trying to grab him... "MARCO!"
              The boogie man checks for chuck Norris under his bed before going to sleep every night.....just sayin.
              Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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              • zyoung25
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 8942

                #187
                Originally posted by SLIDING SIDEWAYS View Post
                I heard there doing something w rear axle tube or something to that effect.
                Ever think of having a axle tube made of tungsten carbide?

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                • Stede Bonnet
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 325

                  #188
                  Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                  Ever think of having a axle tube made of tungsten carbide?
                  I'm sure someone has but it seems to me it would be a waste of money when you could achieve the same effect with bolt on weight. It'd be a helluva lot easier to move the weight around for different track conditions bolted on instead of forged into an axle tube... Once again, why bother making a rule on this when a cheaper equivalent solution is available? The heavy axles and the wheel spacers I understand better than bothering with an exotic axle tube, because they are easy to swap out for dampening engine torque in the slick.
                  Politically Incorrect.

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                  • Ryan21mid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 323

                    #189
                    Aren't ISP seats full containment? If so they're legal..If not bolt on a $200 kit and go race.

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                    • MittenMadman
                      Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 88

                      #190
                      Originally posted by Ryan21mid View Post
                      Aren't ISP seats full containment? If so they're legal..If not bolt on a $200 kit and go race.
                      Yes they are. We were told that we might not be legal and have to send it back down to have it SFI rated...

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                      • W2Racing09
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 1691

                        #191
                        Originally posted by MittenMadman View Post
                        Yes they are. We were told that we might not be legal and have to send it back down to have it SFI rated...
                        Was that before they announced that they had relaxed the SFI Requirements for this season? As I understood it was only needing to be full containment.

                        The drivers you are saying don't have $40k cars, are they not SLM? I don't often see All Alumnimum motors selling for under $20k, and a nice roller newer than 2013 is probably going to cost in the area of $20k as well all said and done. I don't think the $40k number is that ridiculous ($100k which is what some of the National guys are spending on the other hand...). I do know that there are a lot of guys running in less than a $40k car too, its not ideal and I think after the changes they made the rules make more sense. I don't think going from no rules one season, to restrictive rules the next is necessarily the best way to do things and I'm glad they changed it.

                        Thanks,
                        Jeff.

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                        • racerb12
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 174

                          #192
                          What do u think Lucas oil, drug checking your drivers for safety or bolting a wheel cover on.

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                          • Stede Bonnet
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 325

                            #193
                            Originally posted by racerb12 View Post
                            What do u think Lucas oil, drug checking your drivers for safety or bolting a wheel cover on.
                            I think the rule makers need to be drug tested. I'm NOT doing FC, period.

                            @W2 your assertion that if $40K is no biggie every year to an average team, whats another $10K for the new garb is in error. Most local teams don't buy a "New/Used" engine every season or a new/used car, they spent years accumulating and struggle to pay for rebuilds. IMHO, the roof line is too low and the c@ckpit is too confined to safely use FC seats in a DLM, especially for taller and/or larger drivers.

                            Once the concussions and neck injuries spike they'll make some other bonehead rule too. No thanks.
                            Politically Incorrect.

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                            • zyoung25
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 8942

                              #194
                              Originally posted by Stede Bonnet View Post
                              I'm sure someone has but it seems to me it would be a waste of money when you could achieve the same effect with bolt on weight. It'd be a helluva lot easier to move the weight around for different track conditions bolted on instead of forged into an axle tube... Once again, why bother making a rule on this when a cheaper equivalent solution is available? The heavy axles and the wheel spacers I understand better than bothering with an exotic axle tube, because they are easy to swap out for dampening engine torque in the slick.
                              Who's to say the axle tubes were the only thing made of this stuff? When these parts are made, they're always there. Not in the way, and no worries of them shifting. It makes sense to me.

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                              • W2Racing09
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 1691

                                #195
                                Originally posted by Stede Bonnet View Post
                                I think the rule makers need to be drug tested. I'm NOT doing FC, period.

                                @W2 your assertion that if $40K is no biggie every year to an average team, whats another $10K for the new garb is in error. Most local teams don't buy a "New/Used" engine every season or a new/used car, they spent years accumulating and struggle to pay for rebuilds. IMHO, the roof line is too low and the c@ckpit is too confined to safely use FC seats in a DLM, especially for taller and/or larger drivers.

                                Once the concussions and neck injuries spike they'll make some other bonehead rule too. No thanks.
                                Not sure where the $10k number is coming from.

                                Thanks,
                                Jeff.

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