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  • Highside Hustler25
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 12965

    #106
    Originally posted by dirtracer74 View Post
    I am guessing you have never packed a wheel full of mud/ clay?
    Agree. Better stay off that cushion. They are a must.
    8/13/16

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14324

      #107
      Originally posted by Highside Hustler25 View Post
      Agree. Better stay off that cushion. They are a must.
      Depends on where you race. Haven't had a hard cover on our car's RR all season.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • FlatTire
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 560

        #108
        Regardless of the intricacies of these rules, I thank those involved for making a unified effort in addressing. At least they are doing something.

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14324

          #109
          Originally posted by FlatTire View Post
          Regardless of the intricacies of these rules, I thank those involved for making a unified effort in addressing. At least they are doing something.
          Sometimes, nothing is needed.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • Ryan21mid
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 323

            #110
            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
            Sometimes, nothing is needed.
            In this case, most everything mandated was needed. JMO. These rules aren't going to cost the majority of DLM racers much money outside of the suppression system which they've been preaching was coming for months.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #111
              Originally posted by Ryan21mid View Post
              In this case, most everything mandated was needed. JMO. These rules aren't going to cost the majority of DLM racers much money outside of the suppression system which they've been preaching was coming for months.
              How do we determine what is needed? What changed from 2014?
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • fastford
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4059

                #112
                Originally posted by Ryan21mid View Post
                In this case, most everything mandated was needed. JMO. These rules aren't going to cost the majority of DLM racers much money outside of the suppression system which they've been preaching was coming for months.
                here is my opinion , the majority of DLM racers as a whole are barely able to afford to race now, the only ones these rules want affect funds wise , is the few elite touring guys.

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                • calverton
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 1591

                  #113
                  Why not have them grand fathered or or on time table its not just the racers do the suppliers have what they need to get the job done also

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                  • Ryan21mid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 323

                    #114
                    I pinch every penny I can to make it to the racetrack every week so I know. I'd be willing to say 90% of the LM guys at our local track are already compliant with the seat rule, hans, and fuel cells. That leaves the suppression system to purchase over the offseason. If guys can't afford an $800 fire system, and possibly a $500 seat or $500 HANS, then DLM racing is not what they need to be doing. If it comes down to $800-$2000 worth of protection, human life is worth much more than that but that's JMO.

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                    • Stede Bonnet
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 325

                      #115
                      They've fixed little and they're probably gonna end up doing more harm.

                      Originally posted by Ryan21mid View Post
                      In this case, most everything mandated was needed. JMO. These rules aren't going to cost the majority of DLM racers much money outside of the suppression system which they've been preaching was coming for months.
                      I read the article, and every racer that was injured already had the gear they rushed to legislate. They aren't using logic, they're using emotion and that never goes well, enacting laws rules just to say you did something is never a good idea. The only racer that was hurt or killed that they mentioned who didn't already have an FC seat was Unger and his injuries weren't related to not having an FC or not having a HANS. The two burn victims both had FC seats and couldn't get out in a timely fashion or at all. The only thing they mandated that makes any sense is the fire suppression system, the rest is legislative over reach and is too much like big government.

                      Why is is yours or anybody else's business to tell me what you think I should have to use?
                      Politically Incorrect.

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                      • Ryan21mid
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 323

                        #116
                        Well when people continue to get hurt/killed and insurance companies start charging more and/or shutting tracks down then i suppose it becomes their business. When you're competing under a certain track/sanction's rules package then that's their right to tell you what you need to have in order to compete. I get where you're coming from but these safety rules in this day in age just seem like a no brainer to me.

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                        • Escobar
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 366

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Ryan21mid View Post
                          In this case, most everything mandated was needed. JMO. These rules aren't going to cost the majority of DLM racers much money outside of the suppression system which they've been preaching was coming for months.
                          How much do you know about the seats? That alone could be enough to make a guy run another class.

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                          • flagone
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2861

                            #118
                            INCORRECT. Not emotion at all. These changes have been discussed and researched for well over a year. Ask any chassis builder or race team that was visited by Rick Schwallie last year. The incidents of this year only reinforced the need for these changes.

                            It is AMAZING to me that people are willing to argue that these things aren't needed. There is a reason that all the safety equipment is mandated at the highest levels of auto racing. We have got to get out of the mentality that additional safety requirements are a bad thing.

                            And those of you that think it won't affect your local track... wait until they get insurance evaluations. This is not a knee reaction at all.

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                            • onlyfacts
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 395

                              #119
                              Safety rules are needed but what isn't needed is these sanctioning bodies and groups dictating everything. This sport grew because it gives owners, drivers and teams a sport that wasn't dictated by an organization like NASCAR or the many short track pavement sanctioning groups that are no longer around. Constantly changing adding dictating rules will only lead to smaller car counts, NASCAR type equality and less actual racing. Safety is one thing but this sport grew because of few regulations. We don't need an Obama liberal bigger government (Lucas) type of governing in dirt late model racing. We need a conservative type of governing of the rules so we don't end up with a watered down product of what we have.
                              Last edited by onlyfacts; 11-17-2016, 09:32 AM.

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                              • Josh Bayko
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 8756

                                #120
                                People don't realize how much influence insurance companies have over safety rules.
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