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  • heinen81
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 205

    #16
    Good points, however to that point... the race this year where late models were issued tires prior to the event, (total brain fade on which race) it would be interesting to see if the lap times had fallen off compared to years past in which they could groove and sipe. I know there are several factors that come into play (weather, track conditions, ect) but it would be interesting to see in lap times, what the difference could be. My guess come amain time, siping would prove more valuable than grooving in terms of firing the tire quicker, and then controlling temps. Yes grooving gives you more edges... but costing you contact patch area when you need as much grip as possible.

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14324

      #17
      Originally posted by heinen81 View Post
      Good points, however to that point... the race this year where late models were issued tires prior to the event, (total brain fade on which race) it would be interesting to see if the lap times had fallen off compared to years past in which they could groove and sipe. I know there are several factors that come into play (weather, track conditions, ect) but it would be interesting to see in lap times, what the difference could be. My guess come amain time, siping would prove more valuable than grooving in terms of firing the tire quicker, and then controlling temps. Yes grooving gives you more edges... but costing you contact patch area when you need as much grip as possible.
      It was the North South. They issues RR tires only. Track was much faster than typical so can't compare.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • heinen81
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 205

        #18
        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
        It was the North South. They issues RR tires only. Track was much faster than typical so can't compare.
        Well there goes that idea then lol. Thanks for the info tho!

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        • Jim11h
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1501

          #19
          Tires are the most important part of the car. Their the only thing touching the track. If their not right then no setup will ever be at it's fastest. I'm all for rules to regulate them and make fair for all but hard tires not the answer

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14324

            #20
            Originally posted by Jim11h View Post
            Tires are the most important part of the car. Their the only thing touching the track. If their not right then no setup will ever be at it's fastest. I'm all for rules to regulate them and make fair for all but hard tires not the answer
            The more they are regulated, the more you get cheated by the competition.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • Jim11h
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1501

              #21
              I can't disagree with that statement. It's well known some people get things others can't

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              • Bubstr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3734

                #22
                The No groove no sype 20 rule seem to be fan friendly. If the track is up to it and the format hasn't put the fast cars in front, there have been some good races. They are all on the same tire, so the race fan really doesn't know the difference. One thing, the softer tire should eliminate most of the soaking. It does promote, taking care of the tire wear some.

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                • zyoung25
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 8960

                  #23
                  Originally posted by calverton View Post
                  did the tires last longer
                  Actually they did. That kinda depends on the driver too and how aggressive they are.

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                  • MI Dirt Fan
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 8806

                    #24
                    I can get some many more races out of grooved and siped tires. Whether its a LM tire, Mod tire or the Street Stock/Sportsman tires.

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                    • dirty bert
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 297

                      #25
                      OK I might see the no cutting an no siped deal but I think no grinding rule is going to far.i mean how long does it take to grind a tire

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                      • MI Dirt Fan
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 8806

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dirty bert View Post
                        OK I might see the no cutting an no siped deal but I think no grinding rule is going to far.i mean how long does it take to grind a tire
                        Same time it takes me to groove OR sipe a tire.

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                        • zyoung25
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 8960

                          #27
                          If youre saying it takes the same amount of time to groove and buff a tire, you're wrong, hate to tell ya. One person can buff a tire in a matter of mins, grooving.....NAH.

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                          • Centeroff
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 1896

                            #28
                            The question I always wondered was the wrapping of the tires. Any proof that wrapping a tire makes speed? I mean you buff them after every Hotlaps, and qualifying anyway. It started a few years ago but I'm not 100% sold on it. Only thing I can think of is wrapping keeps a chemical you could get on the tire off of the tire that could possibly make you fail the dreaded tire prep test??? Who knows!

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                            • calverton
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 1591

                              #29
                              wrapping the tires keeps the oils in the tire not foreign oils

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                              • calverton
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 1591

                                #30
                                Originally posted by zyoung25 View Post
                                Actually they did. That kinda depends on the driver too and how aggressive they are.
                                I knew that at the world some drivers were astonished how the tires looked

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