Tires

[MI Dirt Fan]

If youre saying it takes the same amount of time to groove and buff a tire, you're wrong, hate to tell ya. One person can buff a tire in a matter of mins, grooving.....NAH.

How can I be wrong if I've done it?

[dirty bert]

If youre saying it takes the same amount of time to groove and buff a tire, you're wrong, hate to tell ya. One person can buff a tire in a matter of mins, grooving.....NAH.

I've seen some guys buff tires while there class is lineing up an still make it in time.He must have a mighty slow grinder.

[Bloomerdirtking]

Rubbin er down with sand paper lol

[zyoung25]

How can I be wrong if I've done it?

It tells me that my guy wouldn't want you anywhere near his tires.

I've seen some guys buff tires while there class is lineing up an still make it in time.He must have a mighty slow grinder.

I think you read my post wrong. I said a guy could grind one in a matter of mins, but grooving is a different story, unless you're MI Dirt Fan I guess.

[calverton]

i would n't let MI dirt fan touch my lil red wagon lol

[MI Dirt Fan]

With the right tools and work area you'd be surprised how quickly stuff can be done.

[calverton]

They want quality not quantity

[MI Dirt Fan]

They want quality not quantity

Isn't it about time for you to go make a new username

[swartzman]

Here we go to having to have new tires on everytime you go onto the track again.. i am sure the tire manufacturers are going to be behind it..

[late96]

Seems that's what Wissota has done to us with the tire we now have. No grooving or siping, and the original grove will be gone after a feature. Some guys are changing between heat and feature already

[Bubstr]

I can get some many more races out of grooved and siped tires. Whether its a LM tire, Mod tire or the Street Stock/Sportsman tires.

This doesn't even sound close. First, a grooved and syped tire flexes more that one that is not. Flex creates heat. Heat promotes tire wear. To counteract this, tires are ground to stop some of the flex. This in it's self shortens tire life. It's a never ending circle of procedures that promote tire wear, not extend it.

As some races are no groove or sype and some are not, with the good tire wear you get from un-cut tires, you could groove them for the next race and get back your edges and have a tire that punches just a little harder that original, due to heat cycle. A few new grooves and/or sypes and you have a good tire for a local show. That would be the best bet for tire wear.

[vande077]

personally the ONLY tire rule I am in favor of us you must use the same tires all night (makes tire selection actually matter because you have to time trial on it, run your heat, run a dash if the series has one, and run the main).

Someone may be willing to give up a fast time trial knowing they will have the best tires for the feature while someone else will want to start up front in the heat hoping they can "nurse" their tires to the end of the feature.

Makes passing actually happen because everyone is on a different agenda.

Allowing teams to change tires anytime they want costs teams a lot of $$$ IMO. making it so that decision is made right after hotlaps (or before) means no worry about giving the teams time to break down tires and mount new ones between every race. What they have on is what they are running PERIOD.

As far as grooving and siping goes, let them, but it's not allowed until after the heat races are complete.

Penalty for changing a tire (unless it gets cut DURING a race) would be starting last in the feature and no series points for that event (or track points for weekly racers, UMP points, etc., etc.).

[dirty bert]

I think swartzman is right you going too have to keep new ones on especially if you can't buff em, sure tire company's are loving this deal. You eather keep new ones on are get out of the way

[calverton]

You can buff them worked pretty good this last weekend and at the world AND VANDEO77 they have done your way in our area and most of the teams want to go one step further and go the no siping and grooving way

[Krooser]

Funny... 30 years ago we never touched our tires… run any compound you wanted. Then tire soaking came into vogue…