Max Aero, Return of the wedge!

[CIRF]

I say bring back the wedge and let 'em put the 6' side boards and the huge spoilers on them. Let's get 'em pinned to the track in such a way that the engines will cost $80 grand and owners will only want to race on 1/4 mile or smaller tracks. Decrease the weight requirements down to 1500 lbs. and watch 'em GO!

Today's generic dirt late model is way over the top anyway. They allow them to lay way over on the right side. The right front wheel and tire has to be 8 to 10 inches further to the right than the right rear. More than 1/2 the left rear wheel disappears ahead of the wheel well opening under full acceleration and they allow them to have different wheelbase measurements from one side to the other. The more exotic the better!!

[Highside Hustler25]

Call me new age, but I think DLM look better than ever. I love the rounded sides back to the quarter panel. Like Mark Martin said in an interview, DLM are the most "sexy" race car out today. I agree completely. I've been going to late model races for 25 years and the cars of today are my favorite ever. And all the griping about the racing being bad... just because the track at GIS was junk (I was there, in person) why are we blaming the cars? Did y'all already forget all the other great close races from the last few years? Heck even last year at GIS?

What a great post ! It's all about track prep and configuration. It has been quite a while since I've witnessed a race like the one at GIS. I've seen races where the top or bottom might be a little more dominate than the other but the overall racing is good.
And I agree with M.M., they are sexy. That pick of Overton is no different than the picks of Richards last year, Davenport the year before. These pictures are taken at the perfect moment and angle that they really show the pitch of the car. Pretty cool but they've been this way for a while. I say leave it be.

[COKEandaSMILE]

When the drivers talk about aero push, it's an issue. What more do you need to know?

[Hoosier_Dirt]

I keep hearing multigroove tracks. Watch the lates..they will run the same line lap after lap after lap, then it turns 1 groove. I'd change the nose pieces, the right front deal would no longer be able to tuck up under the fender, make to where there cars aren't glued to the track.

[dirtdobber45]

Makem go back to wedge noses. Maybe an inch lip on BOTH sides...max.

[Josh Bayko]

I keep hearing multigroove tracks. Watch the lates..they will run the same line lap after lap after lap, then it turns 1 groove. I'd change the nose pieces, the right front deal would no longer be able to tuck up under the fender, make to where there cars aren't glued to the track.

I've seen plenty of races over the last few years where the cars were "glued to the track" that had passing and more than one groove.

[Stede Bonnet]

Farewell to and old friend, gone too soon.

Goodbye, Dirt Super Late Model

It was great while it lasted and you will be missed. You died from perversion, apathy, greed and ineptitude. Sadly it came about because those who don't know their history are always doomed to repeat it and they did. This is, a most corrupt, self centered, narcissistic and perverse generation, so sure of their own superiority, tech savvy and awesomeness... Killed by the, "Baby on board" crowd, run over by the, "Oooh, let me get a selfie" bunch.

Bon Voyage'

[stock car driver]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/classic-cars/the-yenko-1-a-top-gun-1970-camaro-dirt-late-model/ar-AAmWPYn?li=BBnb4R5

Click the link, thats a good looking late model.

Flat sided bodies are not good looking cars, modifieds and late models are not good looking cars they are all the same.

[RayCook53fan]

Goodbye, Dirt Super Late Model

It was great while it lasted and you will be missed. You died from perversion, apathy, greed and ineptitude. Sadly it came about because those who don't know their history are always doomed to repeat it and they did. This is, a most corrupt, self centered, narcissistic and perverse generation, so sure of their own superiority, tech savvy and awesomeness... Killed by the, "Baby on board" crowd, run over by the, "Oooh, let me get a selfie" bunch.

Bon Voyage'

This is the dumbest post I have read today, and that's really saying something.

[Josh Bayko]

Goodbye, Dirt Super Late Model

It was great while it lasted and you will be missed. You died from perversion, apathy, greed and ineptitude. Sadly it came about because those who don't know their history are always doomed to repeat it and they did. This is, a most corrupt, self centered, narcissistic and perverse generation, so sure of their own superiority, tech savvy and awesomeness... Killed by the, "Baby on board" crowd, run over by the, "Oooh, let me get a selfie" bunch.

Bon Voyage'

You whine about rules, you whine about no rules. Your points would make more sense if you weren't such a hypocrite.

[Stede Bonnet]

"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him well."

I've taken the same stance all along, already plenty of rules exist, no need for new ones. Selective enforcement has led to outlandish looking cars and increased expense and favoritism. So where is my hypocrisy? Enforce the rules you have equally and consistently.

[RayCook53fan]

"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him well."

I've taken the same stance all along, already plenty of rules exist, no need for new ones. Selective enforcement has led to outlandish looking cars and increased expense and favoritism. So where is my hypocrisy? Enforce the rules you have equally and consistently.

If you hate the "outlandish" cars so bad, why do you care if the have rules or don't? Why don't you just watch old videos from pre-1982? because I'm 100% certain the last 35 years the cars classified as "dirt late models" have looked outlandish in their own ways. Do you want to see a stripped out, souped up 2017 Ford Mustang or Taurus, or a brand new Chevy Camaro or Malibu going around a dirt track as a dirt late model? This isn't 1978. Don't get me wrong I love seeing races and cars and photos from back then, all the way through today. But times change. Freddy Smith's 1983 wedge car didn't look like Charlie Hughes 1978 Camaro, nor did Scott Bloomquists 1998 Warrior look like Scott Bloomquists 1991 Mastersbilt, you get the picture. Times change. I think the cars from the late 90s and early 2000s were the ugliest DLM in history. I personally LOVE the early 90s semi wedge cars, and cars of the last 5-7 years or so. But that's simply my opinion, just like you seem to hate the DLM of today.

[rickybrown1952]

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Wow is that really legal?

[Tireguy17]

I don't think anyone, like myself, who think the body rules need some work, are stating to turn the dial back 15 years. Fix the deck height/slope issues, the out of control nose/front fenders, and fill in the rear posts. The doors and rear quarters are fine. What they are doing with the suspension these days, pinning the RF and hiking the LR up all around the track, makes that deck sloping a big down force/traction gain. They aren't doing it for looks!

Theres a reason no one has filled in rear roof posts anymore, its all about getting air to the spoiler for traction.

I for one am tired of hearing the 2 main excuses for losing being "The winner had clean air and I missed the tire compound."

[Bubstr]

When the drivers talk about aero push, it's an issue. What more do you need to know?

It isn't a issue that will be fixed by a rule. If there is more than one lane on the race track, they seem to pass. These discussions come up, right after stinker races like GIS had. Was that Areo or just a bad track? I don't care what Areo rules you put in place, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. If these tracks put the time effort and thought into making a great race track, like the teams do for racing on it, there wouldn't be a problem.