Time for some new rules re. Provisionals

[TBSprintFan]

It is time for Lucas and WoO Late Models to make some new rules regarding provisional. So far in 7 Lucas Races (I know they are not all points) Francis & Flinner = 4 ea., Pearson Jr. = 3, Lannigan & Erb Jr. = 2 ea.. Why would some non touring & smaller teams and esp. drivers from other series want to compete? These 2 series should follow the WoO Sprints rules regarding provisional, esp, the part of 4 maximum 8.0 Provisional & Alternate Starting Positions A.) If provisionals are permitted in the Feature event; the car(s) owner(s) and driver(s) will earn full WoO 14 points. B.) All 2017 WoO Platinum Member race teams that raced the entire 2016 season either as an Owner or Driver will begin the 2017 season with 2 provisionals. 2017 Gold Members that are in good standing will earn 2 provisionals after the 5th race night of the 2017 season and will also transition to Platinum status at that time. On July 1, 2017, any Platinum Team having raced 100% of the schedule to date will earn an additional 2 provisionals. The total provisionals any team can accumulate for the 2017 season is four (4). Any Owner or Driver that has already exhausted their allotted provisionals but gain additional provisionals by switching teams and/or by any other legal means will earn show-up points only for any further provisional starts. C.) Any Team using a provisional shall forfeit the minimum start money paid for the A Main Feature. Any position attained that pays greater than the start money will be paid as advertised minus the start money amount. D.) All Teams wanting to take a provisional must have attempted to compete in at least one preliminary event leading up to the Feature. E.) Provisionals tag the rear of the A Main Feature. F.) Only two WoO provisionals will be permitted for each Event’s Feature race. G.) The following guidelines will be used for determining provisional order: a.) For the first 5 race nights of the 2017 season provisionals will be awarded according to last year’s final Owner and Driver Point standings. (For the first 5 nights of racing only 2016 Platinum Members that raced full time as an Owner or Driver from the previous year are eligible for provisionals) b.) Beginning on the 6th night of racing, current Owner Points will determine the provisional order. c.) When using 2016 Owner and Driver Points for the first 5 nights of racing, the provisional order will be established by combining the two point lists into one, numerically sequenced, list. If a team is comprised of a 2016 Owner and a different 2016 Driver then that team uses whichever has the highest point position. Owner Points will take precedent if a tie exists between any Owner and Driver. Other ties will be broken first by 2016 A Main Feature wins, then top 5 finishes, then top 10 finishes and finally by qualifying position. Multi-car teams cannot rotate drivers to enhance their provisional position. H.) Tracks, where a weekly sprint car program is raced and pointed, may install a program identically paid and pointed as the WoO provisional program, for up to 2 local drivers. I.) In the event that a car qualified for the Feature event is unable to take the initial green flag, the first nonqualified car will be taken as an Alternate. The original qualified car will not receive A Main Feature points. Alternates earn show-up points only. However, Alternates earn the full amount of purse money that their respective finishing position is scheduled to pay. Alternates will not be taken once the initial green flag has been displayed.

[TBSprintFan]

Sorry for the way it came out but it was written with paragraphs and such before it was posted.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Sorry for the way it came out but it was written with paragraphs and such before it was posted.

I think there is a setting you gotta change in 4m to make it come out nicely. I wanna say basic might be the wording they use. Turn it opposite of what it is now.

[TBSprintFan]

It is time for Lucas and WoO Late Models to make some new rules regarding provisional. So far in 7 Lucas Races (I know they are not all points) Francis & Flinner = 4 ea., Pearson Jr. = 3, Lannigan & Erb Jr. = 2 ea.. Why would some non touring & smaller teams and esp. drivers from other series want to compete? These 2 series should follow the WoO Sprints rules regarding provisional, esp, the part of 4 maximum.

8.0 Provisional & Alternate Starting Positions
A.) If provisionals are permitted in the Feature event; the car(s) owner(s) and driver(s) will earn full WoO
14
points.
B.) All 2017 WoO Platinum Member race teams that raced the entire 2016 season either as an Owner or
Driver will begin the 2017 season with 2 provisionals. 2017 Gold Members that are in good standing will
earn 2 provisionals after the 5th race night of the 2017 season and will also transition to Platinum status
at that time. On July 1, 2017, any Platinum Team having raced 100% of the schedule to date will earn an
additional 2 provisionals. The total provisionals any team can accumulate for the 2017 season is four
(4). Any Owner or Driver that has already exhausted their allotted provisionals but gain additional
provisionals by switching teams and/or by any other legal means will earn show-up points only for any
further provisional starts.
C.) Any Team using a provisional shall forfeit the minimum start money paid for the A Main Feature. Any
position attained that pays greater than the start money will be paid as advertised minus the start
money amount.
D.) All Teams wanting to take a provisional must have attempted to compete in at least one preliminary
event leading up to the Feature.
E.) Provisionals tag the rear of the A Main Feature.
F.) Only two WoO provisionals will be permitted for each Event’s Feature race.
G.) The following guidelines will be used for determining provisional order:
a.) For the first 5 race nights of the 2017 season provisionals will be awarded according to last year’s
final Owner and Driver Point standings. (For the first 5 nights of racing only 2016 Platinum Members
that raced full time as an Owner or Driver from the previous year are eligible for provisionals)
b.) Beginning on the 6th night of racing, current Owner Points will determine the provisional order.
c.) When using 2016 Owner and Driver Points for the first 5 nights of racing, the provisional order will
be established by combining the two point lists into one, numerically sequenced, list. If a team is
comprised of a 2016 Owner and a different 2016 Driver then that team uses whichever has the
highest point position. Owner Points will take precedent if a tie exists between any Owner and
Driver. Other ties will be broken first by 2016 A Main Feature wins, then top 5 finishes, then top 10
finishes and finally by qualifying position. Multi-car teams cannot rotate drivers to enhance their
provisional position.
H.) Tracks, where a weekly sprint car program is raced and pointed, may install a program identically paid
and pointed as the WoO provisional program, for up to 2 local drivers.
I.) In the event that a car qualified for the Feature event is unable to take the initial green flag, the first nonqualified
car will be taken as an Alternate. The original qualified car will not receive A Main Feature points.
Alternates earn show-up points only. However, Alternates earn the full amount of purse money that their
respective finishing position is scheduled to pay. Alternates will not be taken once the initial green flag has
been displayed.

[TBSprintFan]

Thanks chubb n bloomer fan, changed the settings on my account and it worked.

[Latemodel333]

The drivers,and team owners that support the series should get a provisional, they spend the time and money to put a show on for us. The series limits the number of them that takes away from the field to just two, emergency provisionals do not effect non series racers. Anyone bitching they did not make the field because a regular used a provi should work a little harder to get one of the other 22 places.

[hucktyson]

Anyone who thinks at a national touring event you should
Be able to qualify last , run last in your heat , last in the B and still get a provisional is a clown. To fix this insanity limit it to 6 combined provisionals / emergency provisionals and don't allow a provisional unless you time in the top 50% or your wrecked in qualifying. You say non tour guys should work harder ??? Why doesn't that apply to someone who routinely qualifys in the last 5 reguardless of the field ? I understand the cars at that level are insanely fast , but that's why they have local and reigional races , not everyone belongs at national touring events. That's not an insult towards anyone but allowing a car that is not competitive to run the feature every (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) night is an insult to everyone.

[Tireguy17]

Like it or not, the Series MUST/HAVE to take care of their touring drivers FIRST.

Lets just say they capped the number of provisionals, and come June a Francis or Pearson or even Bloomer run out and drop off the tour. That is the last thing the series wants. So while it may seem moronic to let certain drivers use so many, they need to in exchange for drivers committing to the tour.

[Highside Hustler25]

The drivers,and team owners that support the series should get a provisional, they spend the time and money to put a show on for us. The series limits the number of them that takes away from the field to just two, after that the emergency provisionals do not effect non series racers. Anyone bitching because they did not make the field because a regular used a provi should work a little harder to get one of the other 22 places.

No, any touring racer who can't find the speed to beat a non touring regional guy needs to work a little harder.

See, it works both ways.

[Highside Hustler25]

Like it or not, the Series MUST/HAVE to take care of their touring drivers FIRST.

Lets just say they capped the number of provisionals, and come June a Francis or Pearson or even Bloomer run out and drop off the tour. That is the last thing the series wants. So while it may seem moronic to let certain drivers use so many, they need to in exchange for drivers committing to the tour.

Maybe some day, when non touring racers get fed up by getting beat by provisional' s, they'll quit attending these type events. Then when the touring series comes to town you can watch 2 heats with 6 cars each and a 12 car A Main.
At least some fans will be happy to be home by 8:00 PM

[Latemodel333]

No, any touring racer who can't find the speed to beat a non touring regional guy needs to work a little harder.

See, it works both ways.

They all need to work harder to be faster, but a team that has 100% attendance should get a provisional if they meet series requirements.

Lets face it, after speedweek is this really a problem? There where alot of teams/drivers switching chassis, and motors. I am sure a "regular" that cannot make the show on a regular basis will drop on his/her own.

[Tireguy17]

Maybe some day, when non touring racers get fed up by getting beat by provisional' s, they'll quit attending these type events. Then when the touring series comes to town you can watch 2 heats with 6 cars each and a 12 car A Main.
At least some fans will be happy to be home by 8:00 PM

So you're going with the "end of the racing world" analogy to prove a point huh?

A touring series benefits more from their touring guys staying on tour and making the features than local/regional racer starting 24th and being the 1st one lapped. JMO.

[Raceready]

No, any touring racer who can't find the speed to beat a non touring regional guy needs to work a little harder. See, it works both ways.

Or they need to spend a little money on equipment !

[hucktyson]

Yeah Bloomquist is Mr Provisonal ... has rarely ever qualified on merit . The only way to get him on tour is to promise him 55 provisionals . So you guys cry about NASCAR start and park teams but Lucas start and park is cool ?

[TUTY]

I'm ok with the 2 Provisionals but Qualify 24 cars with 2 provisionals for a total of 26 cars.