Time for some new rules re. Provisionals

[Latemodel333]

There should be provisonals for teams/drivers that have invested 1+ yrs on a tour, its up to that organization as to how many, and how often they can be used.
What we should be talking about is how dang good the weather, racing, car count, and crowds have been this year. Both major series will have some dang good points battles this year, which means the fans get what we have been asking for. Win-Win.... Happy Presidents Day!!!

[NormP]

As long as we're dreaming, I'd like to see both tours fail, and then you get to go to the big race in your area and see who decides to show up that night.

But until that happens, can we figure out a way to really penalize the guys that stop on the track to draw a caution then drive off as soon as the yellow is waved?

[hucktyson]

So the consensus of this board is that even if a guy is 2+ seconds a lap off he should
Be allowed race every night on the top touring series in America just because he showed up every night ??? And that's why the vast majority of this board is a bunch of losers who have never even made 50k in a year... that's the mentality you guys have and that's the results you guys have in life because of it. Imagine if the NFL kept anyone on a roster who showed up for practice oh yeah and let them play in every game too ..

[NormP]

Well your assumption about the yearly income of everyone here is definitely a leap of logic I sure wouldn't expect in a discussion about provisionals.

[ptown]

can we figure out a way to really penalize the guys that stop on the track to draw a caution then drive off as soon as the yellow is waved?

That's my biggest complaint, they need to somehow put a stop to that crap.

[Tireguy17]

A touring guy that is 2+ seconds off a lap?

Please......At least if you are going to make an argument, use realistic information.

[TBSprintFan]

So the consensus of this board is that even if a guy is 2+ seconds a lap off he should
Be allowed race every night on the top touring series in America just because he showed up every night ??? And that's why the vast majority of this board is a bunch of losers who have never even made 50k in a year... that's the mentality you guys have and that's the results you guys have in life because of it. Imagine if the NFL kept anyone on a roster who showed up for practice oh yeah and let them play in every game too ..

I totally agree with you, I guess some on here would like to see everyone get a participation trophy and equal pay throughout the field also.

[BloomerHarvickFan]

I say you give the guys enough provisionals for 25% of the schedule. Only drivers who competed full time the previous year.

If you are on tour as a new driver, you get 7 provisionals. And as a first time series regular, if you use your allotment of provisionals and then leave the tour, you forfeit any point fund money that you may be eligible for, and you don't get the provisionals if you attempt to run the series again, as punishment for falling off.

This season the schedule had 56 races....so you'd get 14 provisionals. I think 1 in 4 is a good rule.
It's fair. It gives guys who support the tour more than a fair amount of gimmes.

[TBSprintFan]

A touring guy that is 2+ seconds off a lap?

Please......At least if you are going to make an argument, use realistic information.

Did you watch last nights race, Colton Flinner was pretty darn close or maybe was even.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Lucas and WoO only want enough non regulars to fill out the field. They get that no sweat.

[W2Racing09]

As long as we're dreaming, I'd like to see both tours fail, and then you get to go to the big race in your area and see who decides to show up that night.

But until that happens, can we figure out a way to really penalize the guys that stop on the track to draw a caution then drive off as soon as the yellow is waved?

So you are hoping that the tours fall so that you can do the same thing you can do now (watch your local drivers race for local money)? Without the 80+ $10k+ to win shows that the series bring in there would be considerably fewer drivers making a living racing. Before you say the races would still happen, maybe some -- but most of the races are at tracks that race SLM all season and don't ever pay more than $3-$4k to win because there is no guarrantee of who will show up. Without the LOLMDS and WoO there are significantly fewer big money shows, and with fewer big money shows there will be fewer big time drivers and others out there racing.

Thanks.

[W2Racing09]

I totally agree with you, I guess some on here would like to see everyone get a participation trophy and equal pay throughout the field also.

No, I just think some on here have a brain between their ears and realize the economics of high level DLM racing/tours.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[hucktyson]

Jeff:

This is America and nothing is preventing you from buying a track or starting a series. Go ahead and pay 10k to start 20k to win and 5k tow money ... you think it will work so go ahead and put your money where your mouth is

[Drop Shock]

A touring guy that is 2+ seconds off a lap?

Please......At least if you are going to make an argument, use realistic information.

Flinner is off over a second at some places, he messed up a lot of good races last year

[NormP]

So you are hoping that the tours fall so that you can do the same thing you can do now (watch your local drivers race for local money)? Without the 80+ $10k+ to win shows that the series bring in there would be considerably fewer drivers making a living racing. Before you say the races would still happen, maybe some -- but most of the races are at tracks that race SLM all season and don't ever pay more than $3-$4k to win because there is no guarrantee of who will show up. Without the LOLMDS and WoO there are significantly fewer big money shows, and with fewer big money shows there will be fewer big time drivers and others out there racing.

Thanks.

You do realize WoO and Lucas are not 50 year old institutions, right? There is a whole lot more to dirt racing than just those two series. Here's how it worked, the series came in and sanctioned the big races like the N/S, DTWC, Topless, etc., after they were well established races. Those races and many more didn't happen because of the series. They were here before either tour.

I'm not one of these guys with stars in his eyes that thinks the race isn't worth seeing if it isn't sanctioned by Lucas or the outlaws.

I don't have any problem at all attending a $3000 race at the local track. You're missing a lot limiting yourself to going to races only when the "stars" show up.