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  • vande077
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 140

    #16
    Originally posted by formercrewguy View Post
    In that scenario the OP mentioned, it should be checkered w/yellow.
    so, let's say there are still cars coming down the frontstretch that haven't taken the white flag, it's ok for them to be in danger because the leaders are ahead of the spun car? (wasn;t there, but unless they just had a restart, odds are that there were cars all the way around the track and the spinning car wasn't at the tail of the field with everyone in front of it).

    To me every car, driver and team matter, not just the cars up front. If the spin would warrant a caution on any other lap of the race, it should warrant one on the last lap too.

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    • formercrewguy
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 987

      #17
      Originally posted by vande077 View Post
      so, let's say there are still cars coming down the frontstretch that haven't taken the white flag, it's ok for them to be in danger because the leaders are ahead of the spun car? (wasn;t there, but unless they just had a restart, odds are that there were cars all the way around the track and the spinning car wasn't at the tail of the field with everyone in front of it).

      To me every car, driver and team matter, not just the cars up front. If the spin would warrant a caution on any other lap of the race, it should warrant one on the last lap too.
      I said, as the OP described what happened. "What ifs" don't count in this instance. Besides, they have raceceivers these days that could warn of a spun car.

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      • vande077
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 140

        #18
        Originally posted by formercrewguy View Post
        I said, as the OP described what happened. "What ifs" don't count in this instance. Besides, they have raceceivers these days that could warn of a spun car.
        Using Raceivers to warn of a spun car is basically saying "yellow", so why not throw the yellow?

        I have listened to the Raceiver channel at races before, they only used it to align cars under yellow for restarts, penalize drivers under yellow, or to call out yellow and red flags, the only time they talk on it under green flag conditions is to call "yellow, yellow, yellow" to get the cars slowed down.

        Going off your username I would think you'd care about the safety of all drivers and not just the leaders.

        OP only said the leaders were in front of the spin, had he said the "field" was in front of the spin that's a different scenario. Going off the first post, I'd say a majority of the field were behind the spinning car in the groove in the corner, thus the caution flag should have come out. same as it would have had that car spun on lap 1, 5 or 10.

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        • HammerDown20
          Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 67

          #19
          There was cars all around the track. The leaders where ahead of the spin but when the car stopped in the groove there was still other cars farther back in the field that was coming at him at full speed. Like i said when the flagman pulled back the checkered flag and flipped the caution lights on that told me that the caution was out and the race was not over even though he didnt throw a flag. The confusing part was after all of this he keeps looking up at the scoring tower like he had no idea what was going on. The cars rode around the track for 1 lap under caution and when they came back to the flagstand again he threw the yellow and the checkered at the same time. My whole point is that he flipped on the caution lights before the leaders got to the line so it should have been a caution and the field should have been lined back up and had a green checkered finish.

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          • vande077
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 140

            #20
            Originally posted by HammerDown20 View Post
            There was cars all around the track. The leaders where ahead of the spin but when the car stopped in the groove there was still other cars farther back in the field that was coming at him at full speed. Like i said when the flagman pulled back the checkered flag and flipped the caution lights on that told me that the caution was out and the race was not over even though he didnt throw a flag. The confusing part was after all of this he keeps looking up at the scoring tower like he had no idea what was going on. The cars rode around the track for 1 lap under caution and when they came back to the flagstand again he threw the yellow and the checkered at the same time. My whole point is that he flipped on the caution lights before the leaders got to the line so it should have been a caution and the field should have been lined back up and had a green checkered finish.
            Agree with you, should have been a Green-Checker or Green-White-Checker finish. Sounds obvious that the yellow was out before anyone took the checkered flag.

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            • cjsracing
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 838

              #21
              A couple years ago I had a similar incident:

              I was running 4th and we had just taken the white flag. The 1st and 2nd place cars were racing into turn 1 and took each other out collecting the 3rd place car. I avoided the wreck and was the first to the checkered. They decided the race was completed when the white flag was thrown so they gave the 3 wrecked cars their white flag spots and I finished 4th. BS in my opinion.

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